Switching bathroom and bedroom around - please help

Newbie22FTB

Hello,

Before I move into my new home, I would like to get advice/opinions on moving the bathroom and 2nd bedroom around. I've attached the current layout and my proposed new layout and would like to maximise space.

I think the current bathroom is disproportionate due to its rectangular shape (3m x 2m) and the second bedroom is on the small, cosy side. I'd love to make the bedroom bigger!

Do you think it would be expensive to switch them over, to create better sized rooms?

I've also attached the downstairs layout so you can see the amenities under both rooms. The right side of the kitchen has washing machine area.

Grateful for any guidance and suggestions.
Thank you!

Slinky

Anything is possible for mere money. We had an ensuite put in on the opposite side of the house to the existing plumbing.

Newbie22FTB

Slinky said:

Anything is possible for mere money. We had an ensuite put in on the opposite side of the house to the existing plumbing.

Oh wow. Was that a very expensive thing to do? In terms of plumbing etc?

Newbie_John

In my opinion a very little gain.
Not really sure of the price but I would imagine something like £15-20k to do so. Is it worth it tough?

Ramouth

Can you see the soil pipe on the outside of the house?  While your washing ´machine and sink will be connected to the drainage system, they may be connected with a smaller drain pipe and you need to connect your WC to a proper stack.  If you have external waste (common on older properties) you will be able to see if there is a suitable route for the new connection (down hill and not crossing windows etc).

Slinky

Newbie22FTB said:

Slinky said:

Anything is possible for mere money. We had an ensuite put in on the opposite side of the house to the existing plumbing.

Oh wow. Was that a very expensive thing to do? In terms of plumbing etc?

I think we paid the builder £8K excluding the fittings which we bought separately, but it was part of a much bigger job, We had a new soil stack put in running externally down through the garage roof, and picking up the new drain we had also put in for a new bathroom downstairs. Would you be able to connect to the existing soil stack for the toilet? That's the most difficult thing, getting rid of waste. Getting water in is just a matter of new pipework under floors or over the ceiling.

grumbler

If it's a modern house with all pipes inside, I don't see how this can be done without either putting waste pipes outside of redoing the kitchen (or pumping the sewerage). And even in this case there can be other problems with connecting the new waste pipe.

Newbie22FTB

Ramouth said:

Can you see the soil pipe on the outside of the house?  While your washing ´machine and sink will be connected to the drainage system, they may be connected with a smaller drain pipe and you need to connect your WC to a proper stack.  If you have external waste (common on older properties) you will be able to see if there is a suitable route for the new connection (down hill and not crossing windows etc).

Is it clear from this pic which is the soil  pipe? The bathroom is top right.

grumbler

Newbie22FTB said:

Ramouth said:

Can you see the soil pipe on the outside of the house?  While your washing ´machine and sink will be connected to the drainage system, they may be connected with a smaller drain pipe and you need to connect your WC to a proper stack.  If you have external waste (common on older properties) you will be able to see if there is a suitable route for the new connection (down hill and not crossing windows etc).

Is it clear from this pic which is the soil  pipe? The bathroom is top right.

The bigger one.

Even if the flat roof is the same level as the first floor, I don't see an easy way of connecting a new bath waste pipe to the existing one as it has to have at least about 1/100 slope IIRC.

Doozergirl

It looks to me that the soil pipe is visible on the left hand side of the ground floor extension as you look back at the house.   That would put it on the same side as your proposed new bathroom. 

It's not obvious from your picture what the current route is for waste.  

Fwiw, if you put the door to the bedroom also on the 45 degree angle it will give you good room for wall to wall fitted wardrobes to the left as you walk into the room. 

Section62

Newbie22FTB said:

I've attached the current layout and my proposed new layout and would like to maximise space.

Have you got access to the floor plan of the other half of the semi?  It looks like their stack vent pipe is at the side of the house, which might suggest they have already got the bathroom in that position.

Can you take a picture out of the bathroom window looking across the flat roof?  Is there any pipework visible on it?

Are there any manholes at the side of your house on the path leading to the front?