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NSI Index-linked Savings Certificates

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  • GeoffTF
    GeoffTF Posts: 2,108 Forumite
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    edited 12 February 2024 at 5:21PM
    John464 said:
    soulsaver said:
    There is no £100 fee at iWeb atm.
    I've already got an account with iWeb and logged in to get a quote
    There was about 1% difference between bid and offer
    So 0.5% for each trade I guess?
    Which is far more than I have been paying buying Vanguard and iShares Equity ETFs
    Still not too to bad I guess
    But what of the tax treatment?
    I understand there is no tax on NSI Index linked - I have held 3 for about 15 years but never cashed one in.
    If my MP was any good I would write and ask why they have done this?
    As far as I can see, if the holder needs the money for an emergency, medical care or whatever, its in no one's interest to withhold it.  The holder would pay a reasonable penalty which benefits the taxpayer, and be less dependent on the state which again benefits the taxpayer.
    What are you proposing to buy, and for how much? Index linked gilts have wide quoted spreads on the LSE. That reflects the price that you will get for small trades, which are costly to execute over the phone. The actual spread will be narrower for larger trades. I get better prices trading £50K+. Institutional investors get much better prices. iWeb does not allow you to talk to a dealer nowadays, so you will not know the price in advance.
  • soulsaver
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    edited 12 February 2024 at 6:09PM
    GeoffTF said:
    John464 said:
    soulsaver said:
    There is no £100 fee at iWeb atm.
    I've already got an account with iWeb and logged in to get a quote
    There was about 1% difference between bid and offer
    So 0.5% for each trade I guess?
    Which is far more than I have been paying buying Vanguard and iShares Equity ETFs
    Still not too to bad I guess
    But what of the tax treatment?
    I understand there is no tax on NSI Index linked - I have held 3 for about 15 years but never cashed one in.
    If my MP was any good I would write and ask why they have done this?
    As far as I can see, if the holder needs the money for an emergency, medical care or whatever, its in no one's interest to withhold it.  The holder would pay a reasonable penalty which benefits the taxpayer, and be less dependent on the state which again benefits the taxpayer.
    What are you proposing to buy, and for how much? Index linked gilts have wide quoted spreads on the LSE. That reflects the price that you will get for small trades, which are costly to execute over the phone. The actual spread will be narrower for larger trades. I get better prices trading £50K+. Institutional investors get much better prices. iWeb does not allow you to talk to a dealer nowadays, so you will not know the price in advance.
    @John464 isn't talking about gilts - he's on topic. Yes, I know it's unusual for MSE....
  • John464
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    soulsaver said:
    GeoffTF said:
    John464 said:
    soulsaver said:
    There is no £100 fee at iWeb atm.
    I've already got an account with iWeb and logged in to get a quote
    There was about 1% difference between bid and offer
    So 0.5% for each trade I guess?
    Which is far more than I have been paying buying Vanguard and iShares Equity ETFs
    Still not too to bad I guess
    But what of the tax treatment?
    I understand there is no tax on NSI Index linked - I have held 3 for about 15 years but never cashed one in.
    If my MP was any good I would write and ask why they have done this?
    As far as I can see, if the holder needs the money for an emergency, medical care or whatever, its in no one's interest to withhold it.  The holder would pay a reasonable penalty which benefits the taxpayer, and be less dependent on the state which again benefits the taxpayer.
    What are you proposing to buy, and for how much? Index linked gilts have wide quoted spreads on the LSE. That reflects the price that you will get for small trades, which are costly to execute over the phone. The actual spread will be narrower for larger trades. I get better prices trading £50K+. Institutional investors get much better prices. iWeb does not allow you to talk to a dealer nowadays, so you will not know the price in advance.
    @John464 isn't talking about gilts - he's on topic. Yes, I know it's unusual for MSE....
    Well I am interested in both really
    Is it worth cashing in NSI Index linked bonds at maturity and buying index linked gilts on iweb?
    (On the grounds they could be cashed in an emergency - fixed rate accounts have been suggested instead but you may not be able to cash them in early either.)
    What of the tax treatment?
  • John464
    John464 Posts: 358 Forumite
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    Coupon payments on index linked gilts are taxable. 
    Thanks for the reply
    Does that mean the payment you receive for index linking is not taxable?
    So you don't have to declare it?
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