Fixed term accounts, Monthly, Annually or at Maturity



Am I correct in thinking that interest paid ( say 5.8%) at maturity would at that final 5th year exceed her personal tax allowance of say £12.5k?
If thats how it works, why do some banks offer these options and some dont also is it detrimental to the final interest total
I assume then we should choose the annual option, this correct?
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Someone with no income can earn £18750 in interest before paying any tax.
Tax-free savings: check if you're eligible - Money Saving Expert
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Didn't know that Albermarle, thanks, however given that 2 x 55k 5yr accounts paid at maturity will in year 5 exceed £18750, so back to my OP, should she go for the annual option and whats the reason for it0
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Am I correct in thinking that interest paid ( say 5.8%) at maturity would at that final 5th year exceed her personal tax allowance of say £12.5k?
£110K earning 5.8% will give interest of ~£6300 per year, so over £30K if paid at maturity from a 5 year fixed account. If no other earnings/interest in that year then anything over ~£18570 (PA may have increased by then) will be taxed at 20%. Makes a lot more sense to get the interest paid away monthly or annually and use the personal allowance each tax year.
'Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it; he who doesn’t, pays it' - Albert Einstein.0 -
Doctor_Who said:Am I correct in thinking that interest paid ( say 5.8%) at maturity would at that final 5th year exceed her personal tax allowance of say £12.5k?
£110K earning 5.8% will give interest of ~£6300 per year, so over £30K if paid at maturity from a 5 year fixed account. If no other earnings/interest in that year then anything over ~£18570 (PA may have increased by then) will be taxed at 20%. Makes a lot more sense to get the interest paid away monthly or annually and use the personal allowance each tax year.
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Worried_of_wakefield said:Doctor_Who said:Am I correct in thinking that interest paid ( say 5.8%) at maturity would at that final 5th year exceed her personal tax allowance of say £12.5k?
£110K earning 5.8% will give interest of ~£6300 per year, so over £30K if paid at maturity from a 5 year fixed account. If no other earnings/interest in that year then anything over ~£18570 (PA may have increased by then) will be taxed at 20%. Makes a lot more sense to get the interest paid away monthly or annually and use the personal allowance each tax year.
EDIT: the tax due at maturity from compounding would be closer to £3.5K.'Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it; he who doesn’t, pays it' - Albert Einstein.1 -
Worried_of_wakefield said:Didn't know that Albermarle, thanks, however given that 2 x 55k 5yr accounts paid at maturity will in year 5 exceed £18750, so back to my OP, should she go for the annual option and whats the reason for it
In theory if the interest is not available to withdraw until maturity , then it should be taxed on maturity.
However if the provider adds on the interest annually, and reports that to HMRC annually then it will be taxed annually, even if it is not available to withdraw. There have been conflicting messages from HMRC, and if you ask the savings provider call centre they do not seem to know.
The consensus seems to be if the interest is added annually, then it will be taxed annually, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.1 -
Albermarle said:Worried_of_wakefield said:Didn't know that Albermarle, thanks, however given that 2 x 55k 5yr accounts paid at maturity will in year 5 exceed £18750, so back to my OP, should she go for the annual option and whats the reason for it
In theory if the interest is not available to withdraw until maturity , then it should be taxed on maturity.
However if the provider adds on the interest annually, and reports that to HMRC annually then it will be taxed annually, even if it is not available to withdraw. There have been conflicting messages from HMRC, and if you ask the savings provider call centre they do not seem to know.
The consensus seems to be if the interest is added annually, then it will be taxed annually, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.
The method of reporting is described here: How to complete a Bank and Building Society Interest return - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
and that says interest credited should be reported each year. Since none of us can find a way that interest can be marked as "credited to the balance, but not available until maturity", we think HMRC will use that to calculate the interest each year. That's despite their operatives saying, in online forums, that it should be assessed only when accessible (which the Money Savings Expert guide says too). It seems HMRC has a system not fit for purpose.2 -
I asked SmartSave if they report to HMRC the interest on multi-year fixed term accounts (from which the interest is not accessible until maturity, though they update the balance each year) annually or only at maturity, and their first reply was "we don't report interest to HMRC at all"
What can you say .......
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I have several fixed rate bonds / accounts.Fixed for 5 & 7 years.Paid away annually.This gives me a nice income.Plus I can save any un needed funds.I will need to file a self assessment next year as will go over 10k Interest.Very easy to do, other than the basics, name , address etc.Its only 2 boxes, Income and interest.20 minute job at worst.0
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Bigwheels1111 said:I have several fixed rate bonds / accounts.Fixed for 5 & 7 years.Paid away annually.This gives me a nice income.Plus I can save any un needed funds.I will need to file a self assessment next year as will go over 10k Interest.Very easy to do, other than the basics, name , address etc.Its only 2 boxes, Income and interest.20 minute job at worst.1
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