Shared Ownership Parking issues

MeteredOut

Blackfield said:

The bits I have redacted are just my address details 

My understanding of this is that I have a right to park in three parking spaces and class them as my own spaces?
The neighbours dispute this and are insistent that the third space is a visitor space and one particular neighbour seems to think its his. 
I'd love to know where I stand legally on this
Nobody at the company who deals with my shared ownership seems to be able to provide an answer despite me asking on numerous occasions. They don't seem to want to deal with it

Are you sole owner of the leasehold (you mentioned shared ownership in your first post)? Is the address you've obfuscated your exclusive address, or the address of the overall shared property?

Blackfield

bluelad1927 said:

I think it's safe to say that you don't own three spaces

Based on what exactly?

Blackfield

MeteredOut said:

prettyandfluffy said:

You can download the title deeds for any property from the Land Registry.  I would check the information you were given by your solicitor when you bought the property, and download the title deeds for all the parking spaces so that you know who owns what (there will be a charge for this).  You can then decide how to proceed.

OP was told this 2 weeks ago. I suspect they don't want to know what the neighbours deeds say in case it's not the answer they want.

This would mean buying the title deeds for around 10-15 properties at £6 a go, I won't be doing that just to be told by the neighbours that they still 'dont believe it'

One of the neighbours insists that title deeds don't 'mean jack !!!!!!'

Blackfield

MeteredOut said:

user1977 said:

Blackfield said:

The neighbours dispute this and are insistent that the third space is a visitor space and one particular neighbour seems to think its his. 

What do their deeds say?

Until the OP answers this (which has been asked at least twice) then no-one can advise further with a 100% degree of certainty.

(Personally, I think its unlikely that all 3 spaces are owned by the one property)

If it's unlikely I own three spaces then why are three spaces highlighted as mine in the title plan ?

Blackfield

MeteredOut said:

prettyandfluffy said:

You can download the title deeds for any property from the Land Registry.  I would check the information you were given by your solicitor when you bought the property, and download the title deeds for all the parking spaces so that you know who owns what (there will be a charge for this).  You can then decide how to proceed.

OP was told this 2 weeks ago. I suspect they don't want to know what the neighbours deeds say in case it's not the answer they want.

Not true at all

I just haven't got £60 to waste on title deeds for every property when I don't think that should be a necessary step to have to take 

Blackfield

MeteredOut said:

Blackfield said:

The bits I have redacted are just my address details 

My understanding of this is that I have a right to park in three parking spaces and class them as my own spaces?
The neighbours dispute this and are insistent that the third space is a visitor space and one particular neighbour seems to think its his. 
I'd love to know where I stand legally on this
Nobody at the company who deals with my shared ownership seems to be able to provide an answer despite me asking on numerous occasions. They don't seem to want to deal with it

Are you sole owner of the leasehold (you mentioned shared ownership in your first post)? Is the address you've obfuscated your exclusive address, or the address of the overall shared property?

I am the sole owner of the property , but it was originally bought on a shared ownership scheme. The other owner being the housing association company 

Blackfield

loubel said:

If there are any restrictions on the use of those spaces, eg they are for visitors only, it will be set out in your lease. You need to read your lease and the report your solicitor sent you explaining it. 

But surely the title plan and title deeds trump anything else? 
What's the point of a land registry title plan showing your boundaries if it turns out that you don't actually own what's in it.
Based off that , the lease could say next door own my back garden and I couldn't dispute it 
Doesn't make any sense 
Something has to be the final word and trump everything else 

user1977

Blackfield said:

MeteredOut said:

prettyandfluffy said:

You can download the title deeds for any property from the Land Registry.  I would check the information you were given by your solicitor when you bought the property, and download the title deeds for all the parking spaces so that you know who owns what (there will be a charge for this).  You can then decide how to proceed.

OP was told this 2 weeks ago. I suspect they don't want to know what the neighbours deeds say in case it's not the answer they want.

Not true at all

I just haven't got £60 to waste on title deeds for every property when I don't think that should be a necessary step to have to take 

So ask your neighbours to show you their title deeds, or otherwise to explain why they think they have any right to those spaces.

What do your title deeds say about visitor spaces?

propertyrental

1) ownership does not necessarily = sole right to use. So even if all 3 spaces are owned by you as leaseholder,

a) your lease might grant an exception as to use eg that the visitor space can be used by visitors to the building/estate / whatever. As previously advised - read your lease 

b) other leaseholders' (flat owners') leases  might grant them rights. If you don't want to pay the £60 then either i) buy 2 or 3 which will give you (a (bit) more information - though not a guaranteed answer or ii) accept that no one here can definitively answer your question. We can only guess.

3) just because I refuse to accept that driving at 80 mph is not illegal does not mean the police cannot prosecute me. Similarly, just because a neighbour refuses to accept the Land Registry (and leases) define respective rights, does not mean....... blah blah!

4) my advice? First gather and understand the evidence suggested here that will confirm to you the status of the 2 or 3 spots. Then use that evidence (during a cake and tea party?) to explain and discuss amicably, and try to reach an amicable agreement.

If that fails, write formal letters, to the relevant leaseholder(s) and to whoever manages the building, repeating your position, and stating what you want, and enclose the evidence.

If that fails, pay a solicitor to do similar

And if that fails, go to court.

RAS

Blackfield said:

The neighbours dispute this and are insistent that the third space is a visitor space and one particular neighbour seems to think its his. 

You may not want to spend £60 but it would make a huge amount of sense to download the "particular neighbour's" deeds and that of one of the people who insists it is visitor parking.