Eon Next fixed tariffs come with smart meters (Aug 2023)

CSI_Yorkshire

qsk said:

I have been chased by Eon Next to have smart meter installed. I have been reluctant as I heard the smart meter is not standardised and new one might need to be installed if you switch suppliers. Is this still the case?

Hasn't been the case for several years.

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qsk said:

I have been chased by Eon Next to have smart meter installed. I have been reluctant as I heard the smart meter is not standardised and new one might need to be installed if you switch suppliers. Is this still the case?

Suppliers have been fitting SMETS2 meters since early 2019. These meters connect to a network managed by The Data Communications Company and are supplier agnostic: that is, they will continue to work irrespective of your choice of supplier.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/68898/smart_meters_equipment_technical_spec_version_2.pdf#

MultiFuelBurner

I wonder if it's time for all these "reluctant" smart meter protagonists posts to automatically get added to a single smart meter thread?

I applaud the tenacity of the regulars here posting endlessly regarding the benefits but don't you find it tiresome?

Perhaps one for the mods to consider.

newpuppy

CSI_Yorkshire said:

A company replacing a piece of equipment that they own with an updated piece of equipment that they have been told to fit by the government is not bullying.

So, one anecdote from a friend, some internet rumours, and an untested assumption that the old meters are working correctly.

Sorry, misunderstanding.  It's the excessive amount of letters/texts/emails/reminders about getting smart meters that feels like bullying to me.

As I said, I've been monitoring the situation re smart meters and the reasons for/against having them via MSE and other sources, but still feel they are not for me yet.  But hey, I could be wrong, which is why I've come onto the Forum to see what other Eon customers in particular might be doing.

Thanks to everyone who has chipped in.

MultiFuelBurner

newpuppy said:

CSI_Yorkshire said:

A company replacing a piece of equipment that they own with an updated piece of equipment that they have been told to fit by the government is not bullying.

So, one anecdote from a friend, some internet rumours, and an untested assumption that the old meters are working correctly.

Sorry, misunderstanding.  It's the excessive amount of letters/texts/emails/reminders about getting smart meters that feels like bullying to me.

As I said, I've been monitoring the situation re smart meters and the reasons for/against having them via MSE and other sources, but still feel they are not for me yet.  But hey, I could be wrong, which is why I've come onto the Forum to see what other Eon customers in particular might be doing.

Thanks to everyone who has chipped in.

You mean what all other resistors of smart meters are doing?

I don't know maybe in their tin foil hats under the stairs stashing away lots of tinned goods? 

About as rational a response to anyone that resists a smart meter to me. 

Just losing money hand over fist not having one in a time of next day pricing and time of use tariffs. Just burning money for no reason whatsoever.

rp1974

OP,your simple answer without getting into the whole smart meters being the greatest or the worst thing ever,is really that if you don't have,or get one then you can't get any tariff from any supplier that requires one as per the terms and conditions that you agree to when signing up.
Seems unfair to those that can't have smart meters though,for whatever reason instead of those who don't want them because they don't want them.

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Seems unfair to those that for whatever reason can't have smart meters

You will find that if the supplier is unable to fit a smart meter then the consumer will usually be allowed to stay on the smart meter tariff with the exception of such tariffs as Agile etc that require 30 minute smart meter data for billing.

newpuppy

Dolor said:

You will find that if the supplier is unable to fit a smart meter then the consumer will usually be allowed to stay on the smart meter tariff 

Yes, that's what's been happening to me in previous years with Eon, because of having solar panels.  I've seen this in a recent online article:

"there have been some technical issues ... Some of the issues were connected to households that have smart meters and solar panels fitted together ... still some energy providers that haven’t set up their systems to read the energy generated and exported by solar panels and other renewable installations. One such example is E.On"

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newpuppy said:

Dolor said:

You will find that if the supplier is unable to fit a smart meter then the consumer will usually be allowed to stay on the smart meter tariff 

Yes, that's what's been happening to me in previous years with Eon, because of having solar panels.  I've seen this in a recent online article:

"there have been some technical issues ... Some of the issues were connected to households that have smart meters and solar panels fitted together ... still some energy providers that haven’t set up their systems to read the energy generated and exported by solar panels and other renewable installations. One such example is E.On"

That doesn’t make any sense. Yes, a smart meter can record both import and export. To obtain export data, the supplier needs to obtain an export MPAN from the DNO and it needs to have Adapter software capable of ‘pulling’ export data from the meter. If there is a system problem then even with solar, I cannot see a technical reason why a smart meter cannot be fitted for import data only.

That said, E.oN has this statement on its website:

‘We're able to offer our solar PV customers an exclusive tariff as part of the Government's Smart Export Guarantee (SEG) obligation. This is for people and businesses who generate their own renewable energy.’

As SEG requires an export meter, then I would surprised if E.on is making it a requirement that exporters have a standalone export meter when a smart meter is capable of recording exports.

Jyana

newpuppy said:

Dolor said:

You will find that if the supplier is unable to fit a smart meter then the consumer will usually be allowed to stay on the smart meter tariff 

Yes, that's what's been happening to me in previous years with Eon, because of having solar panels.  I've seen this in a recent online article:

"there have been some technical issues ... Some of the issues were connected to households that have smart meters and solar panels fitted together ... still some energy providers that haven’t set up their systems to read the energy generated and exported by solar panels and other renewable installations. One such example is E.On"

That's some very selective editing of detail from the original. The (start of the) original is:

"Smart meters are equipped to show the exact and real-time consumption of electricity so that the consumer is aware of their solar energy usage and can act on reducing it. However, there have been some technical issues connected to smart meter devices which made the government push back the rollout deadline.

Some of the issues were connected to households that have smart meters and solar panels fitted together. If you’re considering solar panels for your home, this is a good time because on the bright side, with the introduction of the second generation smart meters (SMETS 2) most of the smart meter flaws were resolved."

So the first clip you pulled is clearly talking about the past, and the second one you mentioned is taken completely out of context and actually means the opposite of what you seem to be applying once the rest of the paragraph is included - i.e. again, this isn't a current issue and is now fine with the latest technology.

Then six or seven paragraphs down the page, we come to the rest of your quote:

"However, there are still some energy providers that haven’t set up their systems to read the energy generated and exported by solar panels and other renewable installations. One such example is E.On. On the other hand, some of the energy providers that do have smart meters compatible with solar panels include EDF Energy, British Gas, First Utility, Ovo Energy, Utilita, Bulb, and Octopus."

And again, once read in full it's obviously a non-starter as the solution is right in front of you in black and white. 

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