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Cash Isa

Opened new fixed cash Isa in April this year, with 20k, no further deposits allowed this financial year. 
An existing Cash Isa is maturing in October this year. I know 20k per year is the deposit limit but is it possible to open a new Isa & transfer second Isa amount, to obtain a new rate ? This would mean I had not deposited more than 20k limit for the year. 
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  • ColdIron
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    Yes that's right, transfers don't count against the subscription limit
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  • tiger70
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    Me72 said:
    Opened new fixed cash Isa in April this year, with 20k, no further deposits allowed this financial year. 
    An existing Cash Isa is maturing in October this year. I know 20k per year is the deposit limit but is it possible to open a new Isa & transfer second Isa amount, to obtain a new rate ? This would mean I had not deposited more than 20k limit for the year. 
    I'm in the same position as you, but mine matures in Novermber . I'll be doing the same .
  • TiVo_Lad
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    ColdIron said:
    Yes that's right, transfers don't count against the subscription limit
    You can open as many ISAs as you like; you just can't subscribe (put new money) into more than one of them. So you could, if you wanted, move some of your maturing funds into another fixed ISA and some into an Easy Access ISA, depending on your requirements. The choice is yours. Just make sure you do everything as an ISA Transfer to avoid losing the tax-free status of your cash.
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 31,207 Forumite
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    FYI there is a separate forum for ISA's. If you scroll through it there are lots of threads about ISA transfers.

    ISAs & tax-free savings — MoneySavingExpert Forum
  • To open a new Nat West Fixed Rate ISA you have to declare that 'I have not subscribed and will not subscribe to another cash ISA in the same tax year that I subscribe to this cash ISA.'

    I suggest reading the small print for each bank.

    I know the intention of the government that you cannot deposit more than £20K per annum into ISA's, so if you transferred in funds from previous years you would not be breaking the spirit of the law, but I can't see how you can sign this or similar declarations if you have invested elsewhere in the current tax year.

    My guess is that, administratively, it would be very difficult to ensure that people are not breaking the £20k limit without having T & C similar to the declaration above.

    Any experts like to comment on this guess?
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 31,207 Forumite
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    When you transfer an ISA to a new ISA, you are not subscribing to it ( adding new money to it) , so you can just say no to answer the question.
  • ColdIron
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    I know the intention of the government that you cannot deposit more than £20K per annum into ISA's, so if you transferred in funds from previous years you would not be breaking the spirit of the law, but I can't see how you can sign this or similar declarations if you have invested elsewhere in the current tax year.
    The intention of the Government is Not to stop you depositing more than £20,000, the limitation applies to subscriptions only
    Transfers and subscriptions are very different things
  • Lumphammer2
    Lumphammer2 Posts: 67 Forumite
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    edited 4 August 2023 at 10:15AM
    Many thanks for the replies.  I am now clear on the distinction between subscribe and transfer, and the semantics.

    However, it is very confusing when Nat West ask above the declaration invite me to agree with 'I apply to subscribe to a cash ISA for the tax year 2023/2024......' - and with no mention of transfers and no way of contacting them!




  • I want to understand something as never opened ISA before. I am investing into one with 2 yr fixed and am opening one up for my wife with one year fixed. Next year when hers matures and I open a new one for her and transfer across the funds,do I have to leave the interest in the original or transfer it into the new or withdraw it and do I have to pay tax if I withdraw the interest?
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