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  • mi-key said:
    p.s. my kitchen floor is tiled, and I have dropped heavy pans and things on them and they have never cracked
    Not sure my luck with tenants but going forward will be deducted from deposit payment. Previously had Counxil introduced tenant who didn't pay any deposit. 

    Attached an example of LVT fitted at flat. 

    Attached another picture of tiles not sure what the black thing tenant has on it. 
  • mi-key said:
    Zoe02 said:
    For knowledge why is 
     LVT not a good option it's waterproof
    All LVT will look scruffy fairly quickly in a high traffic area. It is ok for bedroom and living rooms that don't get too much use. It will also fade and discolour fairly quickly as kitchen floors are washed all the time, whereas a bedroom floor can just be swept.

    The colour layer on the top of LVT is quite thin, so any sort of scrubbing can lighten it or remove it
    Thanks will either patch what is there or have fitted hard wearing porcelain. 

    Everything so expensive now will get another quote for works from builder on Thursday. 
  • mi-key said:
    Zoe02 said:
    For knowledge why is 
     LVT not a good option it's waterproof
    All LVT will look scruffy fairly quickly in a high traffic area. It is ok for bedroom and living rooms that don't get too much use. It will also fade and discolour fairly quickly as kitchen floors are washed all the time, whereas a bedroom floor can just be swept.

    The colour layer on the top of LVT is quite thin, so any sort of scrubbing can lighten it or remove it
    I really don't agree that all LVT will look scruffy after a while. My kitchen floor is Karndean, installed over 20 years ago, and still looks good. It's Da Vinci narrow plank and I definitely would have it again. It's  quiet, warm, waterproof, and nothing has ever broken through being dropped on it. It was laid over ply. Maybe cheaper LVTs are as you describe.
    A lot of tenants not careful. Own house more careful.

    Hard times for landlords 😂 
  • Doozergirl
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    edited 1 August 2023 at 9:21PM
    mi-key said:
    Zoe02 said:
    For knowledge why is 
     LVT not a good option it's waterproof
    All LVT will look scruffy fairly quickly in a high traffic area. It is ok for bedroom and living rooms that don't get too much use. It will also fade and discolour fairly quickly as kitchen floors are washed all the time, whereas a bedroom floor can just be swept.

    The colour layer on the top of LVT is quite thin, so any sort of scrubbing can lighten it or remove it
    Are we talking about the same product?  I also disagree with you.  

    LVT is exceptionally heard wearing.  We've been recommending it to clients for years now with zero issues on the glue-down LVT.  It's gone into dozens of rooms by us now. 

    The only issue is the very thin click together flooring that is too good to be true and that's the base, not the wear-layer.  The click sections are too thin and brittle and break on even minor unevenness or  if they are laid in a large floor area.  

    I've had every kind of flooring in our homes over the years and LVT is the one that stands up to everything.  We must have had it for 6 years in our last house before we moved and it was still perfect.  It's coped with kids, dogs, builders, stiletto heels, stuff being dropped, being steam cleaned, scrubbed with a brush, everything.  No issues with fading - it is usually advertised as UV stable and it's almost indestructible.  

    Again, living with it now for coming up to three years, over 100 square metres, with zero issues, I'm genuinely confused at what you are talking about! 


    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • mi-key said:
    Zoe02 said:
    For knowledge why is 
     LVT not a good option it's waterproof
    All LVT will look scruffy fairly quickly in a high traffic area. It is ok for bedroom and living rooms that don't get too much use. It will also fade and discolour fairly quickly as kitchen floors are washed all the time, whereas a bedroom floor can just be swept.

    The colour layer on the top of LVT is quite thin, so any sort of scrubbing can lighten it or remove it
    Are we talking about the same product?  I also disagree with you.  

    LVT is exceptionally heard wearing.  We've been recommending it to clients for years now with zero issues on the glue-down LVT.  It's gone into dozens of rooms by us now. 

    The only issue is the very thin click together flooring that is too good to be true and that's the base, not the wear-layer.  The click sections are too thin and brittle and break on even minor unevenness or  if they are laid in a large floor area.  

    I've had every kind of flooring in our homes over the years and LVT is the one that stands up to everything.  We must have had it for 6 years in our last house before we moved and it was still perfect.  It's coped with kids, dogs, builders, stiletto heels, stuff being dropped, being steam cleaned, scrubbed with a brush, everything.  No issues with fading - it is usually advertised as UV stable and it's almost indestructible.  

    Again, living with it now for coming up to three years, over 100 square metres, with zero issues, I'm genuinely confused at what you are talking about! 


    Previously used laminate but got recommended LVT and even the builder was all praise about the quality. 

    Never used in the kitchen before but looks really nice in the bedroom and living room. 

    https://www.woodandbeyond.com/luxury-click-vinyl-rigid-core-flooring-orion-grey-5mm-by-178mm-by-1220mm-include-1mm-underlay-vl083.html
  • Doozergirl
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    edited 1 August 2023 at 10:02PM
    Zoe02 said:
    mi-key said:
    Zoe02 said:
    For knowledge why is 
     LVT not a good option it's waterproof
    All LVT will look scruffy fairly quickly in a high traffic area. It is ok for bedroom and living rooms that don't get too much use. It will also fade and discolour fairly quickly as kitchen floors are washed all the time, whereas a bedroom floor can just be swept.

    The colour layer on the top of LVT is quite thin, so any sort of scrubbing can lighten it or remove it
    Are we talking about the same product?  I also disagree with you.  

    LVT is exceptionally heard wearing.  We've been recommending it to clients for years now with zero issues on the glue-down LVT.  It's gone into dozens of rooms by us now. 

    The only issue is the very thin click together flooring that is too good to be true and that's the base, not the wear-layer.  The click sections are too thin and brittle and break on even minor unevenness or  if they are laid in a large floor area.  

    I've had every kind of flooring in our homes over the years and LVT is the one that stands up to everything.  We must have had it for 6 years in our last house before we moved and it was still perfect.  It's coped with kids, dogs, builders, stiletto heels, stuff being dropped, being steam cleaned, scrubbed with a brush, everything.  No issues with fading - it is usually advertised as UV stable and it's almost indestructible.  

    Again, living with it now for coming up to three years, over 100 square metres, with zero issues, I'm genuinely confused at what you are talking about! 


    Previously used laminate but got recommended LVT and even the builder was all praise about the quality. 

    Never used in the kitchen before but looks really nice in the bedroom and living room. 

    https://www.woodandbeyond.com/luxury-click-vinyl-rigid-core-flooring-orion-grey-5mm-by-178mm-by-1220mm-include-1mm-underlay-vl083.html
    That's actually the sort of thing I'm concerned about.  It's only 5mm thick, making the click together element very thin, in particular.  If there is any deviation from perfectly level in the existing floor then it is going to get stressed as people walk on it and potentially break. 

    I would personally opt for glue-down or a thicker click together system if you don't have that perfect subfloor.  
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • Zoe02 said:
    mi-key said:
    Zoe02 said:
    For knowledge why is 
     LVT not a good option it's waterproof
    All LVT will look scruffy fairly quickly in a high traffic area. It is ok for bedroom and living rooms that don't get too much use. It will also fade and discolour fairly quickly as kitchen floors are washed all the time, whereas a bedroom floor can just be swept.

    The colour layer on the top of LVT is quite thin, so any sort of scrubbing can lighten it or remove it
    Are we talking about the same product?  I also disagree with you.  

    LVT is exceptionally heard wearing.  We've been recommending it to clients for years now with zero issues on the glue-down LVT.  It's gone into dozens of rooms by us now. 

    The only issue is the very thin click together flooring that is too good to be true and that's the base, not the wear-layer.  The click sections are too thin and brittle and break on even minor unevenness or  if they are laid in a large floor area.  

    I've had every kind of flooring in our homes over the years and LVT is the one that stands up to everything.  We must have had it for 6 years in our last house before we moved and it was still perfect.  It's coped with kids, dogs, builders, stiletto heels, stuff being dropped, being steam cleaned, scrubbed with a brush, everything.  No issues with fading - it is usually advertised as UV stable and it's almost indestructible.  

    Again, living with it now for coming up to three years, over 100 square metres, with zero issues, I'm genuinely confused at what you are talking about! 


    Previously used laminate but got recommended LVT and even the builder was all praise about the quality. 

    Never used in the kitchen before but looks really nice in the bedroom and living room. 

    https://www.woodandbeyond.com/luxury-click-vinyl-rigid-core-flooring-orion-grey-5mm-by-178mm-by-1220mm-include-1mm-underlay-vl083.html
    That's actually the sort of thing I'm concerned about.  It's only 5mm thick, making the click together element very thin, in particular.  If there is any deviation from perfectly level in the existing floor then it is going to get stressed as people walk on it and potentially break. 

    I would personally opt for glue-down or a thicker click together system if you don't have that perfect subfloor.  
    The flat was concrete floor. 

    This house the builder has said to get Plywood because of the floorboard.

    Another builder said have to use thick underlay if not using plywood. 
  • Doozergirl
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    Zoe02 said:
    Zoe02 said:
    mi-key said:
    Zoe02 said:
    For knowledge why is 
     LVT not a good option it's waterproof
    All LVT will look scruffy fairly quickly in a high traffic area. It is ok for bedroom and living rooms that don't get too much use. It will also fade and discolour fairly quickly as kitchen floors are washed all the time, whereas a bedroom floor can just be swept.

    The colour layer on the top of LVT is quite thin, so any sort of scrubbing can lighten it or remove it
    Are we talking about the same product?  I also disagree with you.  

    LVT is exceptionally heard wearing.  We've been recommending it to clients for years now with zero issues on the glue-down LVT.  It's gone into dozens of rooms by us now. 

    The only issue is the very thin click together flooring that is too good to be true and that's the base, not the wear-layer.  The click sections are too thin and brittle and break on even minor unevenness or  if they are laid in a large floor area.  

    I've had every kind of flooring in our homes over the years and LVT is the one that stands up to everything.  We must have had it for 6 years in our last house before we moved and it was still perfect.  It's coped with kids, dogs, builders, stiletto heels, stuff being dropped, being steam cleaned, scrubbed with a brush, everything.  No issues with fading - it is usually advertised as UV stable and it's almost indestructible.  

    Again, living with it now for coming up to three years, over 100 square metres, with zero issues, I'm genuinely confused at what you are talking about! 


    Previously used laminate but got recommended LVT and even the builder was all praise about the quality. 

    Never used in the kitchen before but looks really nice in the bedroom and living room. 

    https://www.woodandbeyond.com/luxury-click-vinyl-rigid-core-flooring-orion-grey-5mm-by-178mm-by-1220mm-include-1mm-underlay-vl083.html
    That's actually the sort of thing I'm concerned about.  It's only 5mm thick, making the click together element very thin, in particular.  If there is any deviation from perfectly level in the existing floor then it is going to get stressed as people walk on it and potentially break. 

    I would personally opt for glue-down or a thicker click together system if you don't have that perfect subfloor.  
    The flat was concrete floor. 

    This house the builder has said to get Plywood because of the floorboard.

    Another builder said have to use thick underlay if not using plywood. 
    Have either used this exact product?  If you put underlay down it will give it even more movement.  It has zero tolerance - liable to snap!  

    I'd go the plywood route with glue down or just pick a thicker LVT board. 
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • Zoe02 said:
    Zoe02 said:
    mi-key said:
    Zoe02 said:
    For knowledge why is 
     LVT not a good option it's waterproof
    All LVT will look scruffy fairly quickly in a high traffic area. It is ok for bedroom and living rooms that don't get too much use. It will also fade and discolour fairly quickly as kitchen floors are washed all the time, whereas a bedroom floor can just be swept.

    The colour layer on the top of LVT is quite thin, so any sort of scrubbing can lighten it or remove it
    Are we talking about the same product?  I also disagree with you.  

    LVT is exceptionally heard wearing.  We've been recommending it to clients for years now with zero issues on the glue-down LVT.  It's gone into dozens of rooms by us now. 

    The only issue is the very thin click together flooring that is too good to be true and that's the base, not the wear-layer.  The click sections are too thin and brittle and break on even minor unevenness or  if they are laid in a large floor area.  

    I've had every kind of flooring in our homes over the years and LVT is the one that stands up to everything.  We must have had it for 6 years in our last house before we moved and it was still perfect.  It's coped with kids, dogs, builders, stiletto heels, stuff being dropped, being steam cleaned, scrubbed with a brush, everything.  No issues with fading - it is usually advertised as UV stable and it's almost indestructible.  

    Again, living with it now for coming up to three years, over 100 square metres, with zero issues, I'm genuinely confused at what you are talking about! 


    Previously used laminate but got recommended LVT and even the builder was all praise about the quality. 

    Never used in the kitchen before but looks really nice in the bedroom and living room. 

    https://www.woodandbeyond.com/luxury-click-vinyl-rigid-core-flooring-orion-grey-5mm-by-178mm-by-1220mm-include-1mm-underlay-vl083.html
    That's actually the sort of thing I'm concerned about.  It's only 5mm thick, making the click together element very thin, in particular.  If there is any deviation from perfectly level in the existing floor then it is going to get stressed as people walk on it and potentially break. 

    I would personally opt for glue-down or a thicker click together system if you don't have that perfect subfloor.  
    The flat was concrete floor. 

    This house the builder has said to get Plywood because of the floorboard.

    Another builder said have to use thick underlay if not using plywood. 
    Have either used this exact product?  If you put underlay down it will give it even more movement.  It has zero tolerance - liable to snap!  

    I'd go the plywood route with glue down or just pick a thicker LVT board. 
    I have used this but the flooring was concrete was an ex council flat. The flooring was leveled but not used with a floor with floor board needing plywood. 

    Will likely get plywood. 

    1 more builder coming on Thursday. 


  • I was not at the house when the builder was stripping everything. I did tell him to leave the stairs carpet. With new flooring and painting will likely stained hence will be getting new carpet but unsure about landing. Will it be carpet also. The entrance will be LVT but the stairs not straight. 

     
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