Parking Code evidence - pictures of signs with £50, £60 or £70 PCN and no £ DRA fee on the sign

kryten3000

Coupon-mad said:

A deserted Currys car park off a main road in Brighton & Hove:

Excel using the cheapest 'sticker on a white billboard' signs which get creased and erode when exposed to the weather. Helpline: LOL. No chance. Not answering today.

Nothing about added fees that you can read. DRA fees have zero deterrent value. The evidence shows that PPC World are liars when they continue to spin that yarn to the MHCLG. Who knew?!

If the driver was to hop, skip, jump, crawl or run off site, then would they still be in breach of the terms?

Switcher_Sam

VARS, near M1 J16. £100 and "..may result in additional charges.." which are not stated.

NCC1701-A

Salthouse harbour hotel, quayside Ipswich, today. No need for any £ detergent, just politeness 

NCC1701-A

Quayside, Ipswich, today, £100 parking charge, unspecified extra charges, no mention that bylaws apply

NCC1701-A

Further along quayside, corner of Ship launch Road, Ipswich, today, no need for £ deterent

NCC1701-A

Wharf car park, Ipswich today. £60 parking increasing to £100 & then unspecified extra costs.

Thorndorise

NCC1701-A said:

Wharf car park, Ipswich today. £60 parking increasing to £100 & then unspecified extra costs.

Failing to park within the bay markings !!!! brilliant good old Ipserv putting zero back into sites...

I notice it says valid permit and then charges apply - does that mean it is a pay and display car park (Ambiguous) - shouldn't they be telling you where you can pay also - or get a permit?

Likewise for the Total CP's one above - where does one get a permit

Coupon-mad

Hellingly Travelodge & Starbucks at Eastbourne; sign from this current thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6613652/horizon-parking-sign

Horizon Parking:

£85 charge but nothing readable about either the terms (which are in minuscule text) or any 'deterrent' of a DRA fee.

Coupon-mad

Another Horizon sign from this news article:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14653127/hour-parking-cowboy-firm-fined-machine-isolated-intimidated.html


Again:
£85 charge but nothing readable that could remotely be construed as having any 'deterrent value' which the industry like to kid the Government is one reason for adding a DRA fee 'to encourage early settlement of PCNs without the need for debt recovery' (as Moorside Legal - the BPA's President Mike Marrs' firm - likes to spin).

Only it's really not a valid argument, is it?! Nobody knows about the leap by £70 until it's too late.

NOT THAT PUTTING THE EXTORTION ON THE SIGNS IS A FAIR/VALID OPTION, MHCLG!

Coupon-mad

Meadowhall Retail Park clearly think £50 works as a deterrent because here's the G24 sign from 2019:

Taken from this thread, which also shows the PCN was £50 back in 2018 too:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81423814/#Comment_81423814

And here the new sign is in 2025, still £50

In fact, both of these signs do mention a "£60 collection fee" but sadly for G24 it's in such minuscule font compared to the £50 PCN, there's no way anyone can read this in real time, when giving it a sideways glance at best, as a busy shopper.

Non-prominent terms are unrecoverable.

Certainly no deterrent value in the DRA 'fee'.