Company Car - Need to Accept being driver to aleviate employer?

Jambo27

Hi there,

I'm struggling at the moment to understand what I can do next for the best possible outcome. Any ideas will be thankfully welcomed.

I am an employee and have a company car assigned to me. The car is leased by my employer.

I know that it's always best to reply as the Registered keeper, and NOT the driver, but I need to take ownership from my employer.

I recveived yesterday (19th) but says it was issued on the 7th.

I am thinking of accepting as driver & maybe stating that I did pay & enter reg but their system must have had an error.

Can see in the newbies section that some examples used:

* "I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis. Your unremarkable and obscure signs were not seen by the driver, are in very small print and the terms are not readable to drivers."

* Further, I understand you do not own the car park and you have given me no information about your policy with the landowner or on site businesses, to cancel such a charge. So please supply that policy as required under the Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013."

Can alo ask for copy of contract, which I know they often don't reply with.

Also ask for evidence of signage as stipulated under BPA rules.

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* Notice sent to my employer because leasing company gave their details.

* Empoyer emailed to me & empoyer not yet given my deltails to parking company.

* Says it was issued on 7th, but only g

* Says I Did Not Pay for parking.

* Went back to the site yesterday and found the entrance sign covered with overgrowth from tree & the part I parked in had no sign, but the next row of spots (6 places up from mine) did have a sign.

* There are pay and siaply machines on-site, but I didn't see at the time.

* Parking Company is: Premier Parking Ltd.

This is my first time with a company car so any ideas and assistance would be thakfully accepted.

KeithP

You would be in a better position if you just confirmed with the parking company that although you are not the Registered Keeper, you are the keeper as defined in The Protection of Freedoms Act.

There is no need to admit to being the driver.

Jambo27

From what I have read, they need to send a Notice to Hirer,  I beleive?

Does it have to say those words on it, or can it just be a Parking Charge Notice?

Umkomaas

Parking Company is: Premier Parking Ltd

Don't recognise them. 

Do you mean:

Premier Parking Enforcement Ltd, or
Premier Parking Solutions Ltd, or perhaps
Premier Park Ltd?

Important we have the correct information to work with and to advise accurately. 

Jambo27

KeithP said:

You would be in a better position if you just confirmed with the parking company that although you are not the Registered Keeper, you are the keeper as defined in The Protection of Freedoms Act.

There is no need to admit to being the driver.

Thanks Keith.

Have a lood look at Sehcdule 4 then realised that it doesn't mention the 'The Protection of Freedoms Act' anywhere in the notice.

So looks like they cannot utilise this to come after the keeper anyway.

Jenni_D

Email back to your employer and request that they respond to the PPC and give your details as the allocated day-to-day keeper of the vehicle? (If it's like most company vehicles then they can't truthfully name you as the driver, as any eligible employee can drive any company car).

KeithP

Jambo27 said:

KeithP said:

You would be in a better position if you just confirmed with the parking company that although you are not the Registered Keeper, you are the keeper as defined in The Protection of Freedoms Act.

There is no need to admit to being the driver.

Thanks Keith.

Have a lood look at Sehcdule 4 then realised that it doesn't mention the 'The Protection of Freedoms Act' anywhere in the notice.

So looks like they cannot utilise this to come after the keeper anyway.

...which confirms that it would be silly to give away the driver's identity, doesn't it?

Jambo27

Umkomaas said:

Parking Company is: Premier Parking Ltd

Don't recognise them. 

Do you mean:

Premier Parking Enforcement Ltd, or
Premier Parking Solutions Ltd, or perhaps
Premier Park Ltd?

Important we have the correct information to work with and to advise accurately. 

"Premier Park Ltd" is named as the creditor and the same company name is where they are asking for any postal mail to be sent to.

PO Box 624, Exeter, EX1 9JG

Jambo27

KeithP said:

Jambo27 said:

KeithP said:

You would be in a better position if you just confirmed with the parking company that although you are not the Registered Keeper, you are the keeper as defined in The Protection of Freedoms Act.

There is no need to admit to being the driver.

Thanks Keith.

Have a lood look at Sehcdule 4 then realised that it doesn't mention the 'The Protection of Freedoms Act' anywhere in the notice.

So looks like they cannot utilise this to come after the keeper anyway.

...which confirms that it would be silly to give away the driver's identity, doesn't it?

Sure does. Thanks for the advice.

Coupon-mad

What are you trying to appeal?  A PCN (notice to hirer) addressed to your employer?

Why not just appeal it using your email address but appealing as or on behalf of  your company, using the NTH 'ABC company' appeal by Edna_Basher in the NEWBIES thread?  Obviously you don't call the company 'ABC' company!

If this is a BPA parking firm you can't lose at POPLA if you take the stance that the NTH/PCN (same thing) had no enclosures.  And DO NOT SAY WHO WAS DRIVING! That wins at POPLA but you haven't said if it is a BPA AOS firm or an IPC one.  

But which PPC is it?

I've no idea where this is in the NEWBIES thread because it's ancient, don't use this:

Can see in the newbies section that some examples used:

* "I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis. Your unremarkable and obscure signs were not seen by the driver, are in very small print and the terms are not readable to drivers."

* Further, I understand you do not own the car park and you have given me no information about your policy with the landowner or on site businesses, to cancel such a charge. So please supply that policy as required under the Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013."

Jambo27

Jenni_D said:

Email back to your employer and request that they respond to the PPC and give your details as the allocated day-to-day keeper of the vehicle? (If it's like most company vehicles then they can't truthfully name you as the driver, as any eligible employee can drive any company car).

I know the car is assigned to me unless I gat asked to swap it or leave. So can assume it's Ok for other elegible empoyees to use. I do keep it all the time and use it as a perosnal car as well.

Will have a look at the car policy.