APCOA station penalty notice

bmas

A penalty notice was received in the post for railway parking which I thought had been paid on Ringgo - I do not see it on my Ringgo app.

How long do I need to wait before I appeal  - not clear from what I have read on the NEWBIES thread.

Many thanks

B789

When you say "Penalty Notice", do you mean a windscreen NtD?

The instruction on how to time this out is on the Newbies/FAQ thread.

Fruitcake

The keeper should appeal a NTK straight away, but should appeal a penalty notice where byelaws apply as late as possible without missing the appeal deadline.

Use the template in blue text from the NEWBIES. Add a one liner that since the alleged event occurred on non-relevant railway land where byelaws apply, the PoFA cannot be used to hold the keeper liable so APCOA should cancel now and save themselves money.

Coupon-mad

No appealing too quickly though!  You just need to time this out because it all falls off a cliff after 6 months. 

So each appeal is done on the last day possible.

This is discussed on every APCOA railway penalty thread already.  Read a few and you'll see how easy it is.

bmas

Thank you.
So I should appeal immediately ie no need to delay to buy time re 6 months?

Also they did show images of the vehicle,so in the template where it says they should show that, should I remove it?

Is this the right one to use? See my draft below.  Many thanks. 

Re PCN number: xxxxx

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.

Since the alleged event occurred on non-relevant railway land where byelaws apply, the PoFA cannot be used to hold the keeper liable.

Coupon-mad

"So I should appeal immediately ie no need to delay to buy time re 6 months?" 

No.

Like i said. Appeal AS LATE as possible.

bmas

Coupon-mad said:

"So I should appeal immediately ie no need to delay to buy time re 6 months?" 

No.

Like i said. Appeal AS LATE as possible.

Thank you- think we posted at the same time.

Is the content of my proposed correct? And what about my question about the picture of the vehicle?

bmas

B789 said:

When you say "Penalty Notice", do you mean a windscreen NtD?

The instruction on how to time this out is on the Newbies/FAQ thread.

No, I received it in the post with title Penalty Notice. It is from APCOA.

bmas

bmas said:

Also they did show images of the vehicle,so in the template where it says they should show that, should I remove it?

Please what should I do here?
Also it is dated 13 July, so I should put in the appeal at about the 9th or 10th Aug?

Fruitcake

Leaving the template as is, or adjusting it to better suit your case will make no difference.

I've adjusted my earlier advice. Normally there is no advantage in appealing later when you get an NTK, but since this is a fake penalty charge then by slowing things down you reduce the risk of the train company/landowner from taking this over. They are the only ones who can issue a court claim. Although this is unlikely, getting past six months means it would be impossible for this to happen.

bmas

Thank you.