UKPC ticket question (hypothetical)

1990xrider

Umkomaas said:

1990xrider said:

Umkomaas said:

Does the ten minute grace period apply to private land. 

Check it out here. Read it carefully. Be aware that parking firms ignore it!

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf

Seems like it wouldn't apply as it was a "parking event". 

That relates to the 'Consideration Period'.  A 'Grace Period', a minimum of 5 minutes in order to leave the car park, isn't a 'freebie' every time you want to use a private car park for whatever personal reasons you might have. 

Do UKPC wardens generally put notices on cars or is it done through cctv and post etc. 

Umkomaas

1990xrider said:

Umkomaas said:

1990xrider said:

Umkomaas said:

Does the ten minute grace period apply to private land. 

Check it out here. Read it carefully. Be aware that parking firms ignore it!

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf

Seems like it wouldn't apply as it was a "parking event". 

That relates to the 'Consideration Period'.  A 'Grace Period', a minimum of 5 minutes in order to leave the car park, isn't a 'freebie' every time you want to use a private car park for whatever personal reasons you might have. 

Do UKPC wardens generally put tickets on cars or is it done through cctv etc. 

Yes, no, sometimes etc.  Read other UKPC threads - there's hundreds, then you'll get your answers. 

Come back if you receive a Notice to Keeper through the post. 

1990xrider

Cheers will do

B789

1990xrider said:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/UHtHtBN27Dirhjo86

This was the car park. Purely hypothetical I know but if I were to receive an invoice could I argue I was not parked i was merely unloading as that was exactly what I was doing for one of the businesses. I couldn't have been parked up for more than ten mins at a time. 

Read this appeal case and form your own conclusion:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ezhkj6epu66l1r/JOPSON-V-HOMEGUARD-2906J-Approved.pdf?dl=0

Le_Kirk

1990xrider said:

Hi
I've started working for a company. The UKPC sign says permits required.
Question is i have used this car park several times over the course of a day due to the nature of my work............

What did your employer suggest when you told them that you would be claiming on expenses for the cost of PCNs whilst you are on company business and where is your permit please?

1990xrider

Le_Kirk said:

1990xrider said:

Hi
I've started working for a company. The UKPC sign says permits required.
Question is i have used this car park several times over the course of a day due to the nature of my work............

What did your employer suggest when you told them that you would be claiming on expenses for the cost of PCNs whilst you are on company business and where is your permit please?

Think they would get off because there is a car park at the business to park in. But very difficult to get in and out of but think I will use it wherever possible. I spoke to a guy who does have a permit to park there for another business (though none on display in the car). He tells me on ocassion there's a warden who comes round. For now I just have a paper "driver on delivery" sign to stick on my car windscreen for such times, and actually it's useful for other ocassions where I have to stop in restricted areas as my work requires

Coupon-mad

That will NEVER protect you in a private car park with parking signs.  Do not do it!

When you do deliveries, we hope you are staying on-street, parking at a kerb and looking to use single or double yellow lines to stop, which is what they are there for (as long as there are no kerb blips too)?

I say that, because it always surprises me how many drivers - including delivery drivers - don't know that loading and unloading is exempt on yellow lines.

AVOID PRIVATE LAND.

Le_Kirk

1990xrider said:

Le_Kirk said:

1990xrider said:

Hi
I've started working for a company. The UKPC sign says permits required.
Question is i have used this car park several times over the course of a day due to the nature of my work............

What did your employer suggest when you told them that you would be claiming on expenses for the cost of PCNs whilst you are on company business and where is your permit please?

Think they would get off because there is a car park at the business to park in. But very difficult to get in and out of but think I will use it wherever possible. I spoke to a guy who does have a permit to park there for another business (though none on display in the car). He tells me on ocassion occasion there's a warden who comes round. For now I just have a paper "driver on delivery" sign to stick on my car windscreen for such times, and actually it's useful for other occasions where I have to stop in restricted areas as my work requires

Yes but what did they say?  Are they prepared to deal with the PPC?  They must have gone into this with their eyes open (one would hope) and didn't just rock up and decide to put a business on the side of a car park!

1990xrider

Le_Kirk said:

1990xrider said:

Le_Kirk said:

1990xrider said:

Hi
I've started working for a company. The UKPC sign says permits required.
Question is i have used this car park several times over the course of a day due to the nature of my work............

What did your employer suggest when you told them that you would be claiming on expenses for the cost of PCNs whilst you are on company business and where is your permit please?

Think they would get off because there is a car park at the business to park in. But very difficult to get in and out of but think I will use it wherever possible. I spoke to a guy who does have a permit to park there for another business (though none on display in the car). He tells me on ocassion occasion there's a warden who comes round. For now I just have a paper "driver on delivery" sign to stick on my car windscreen for such times, and actually it's useful for other occasions where I have to stop in restricted areas as my work requires

Yes but what did they say?  Are they prepared to deal with the PPC?  They must have gone into this with their eyes open (one would hope) and didn't just rock up and decide to put a business on the side of a car park!

They're just basically like park at your own risk, they said if they know you're working for one of the businesses they'll let you off. This is the same for basically most delivery drivers, though I read that some of the big supermarkets basically factor in parking fines to their operating costs and just pay them. 

Coupon-mad

1990xrider said:

Hi
I've started working for a company. The UKPC sign says permits required.
Question is i have used this car park several times over the course of a day due to the nature of my work............

They're just basically like park at your own risk, they said if they know you're working for one of the businesses they'll let you off.

This is the same for basically most delivery drivers,

Be warned: this is NOT how PPCs operate on private land and if they have a PPC infesting their site, the business is wrong to tell drivers that it's safe.

Ex-clamper scammers don't "let drivers off" or pay any regard to a note in the windscreen.

It is OK to do this on street (Council) which is where delivery drivers should stop if at all possible (without causing obstruction).  And it is always OK to stop to deliver on DYL, as long as there are no 'loading restrictions' in force too.