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UKPC ticket question (hypothetical)

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I've started working for a company. Their car park is very small and accessible via private land with UKPC signs. Speaking to other employees, they say they often park on the private land with UKPC signs and that generally the person who tickets knows who is an employee who isn't and doesn't ticket. The UKPC sign says permits required.
Question is i have used this car park several times over the course of a day due to the nature of my work, would any ticket (i havent had any on my windscreen and don't know if there are any cameras) cover the whole period or could i get fined for each time i enter and park up at the car park. I didn't see any ANPR cameras but did see some CCTV. What are my rights if I get a ticket, do i go to the landowner first or my employer? 
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  • KeithP
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    What was wrong with your other thread, where you had a link to the car park in question?
  • 1990xrider
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    KeithP said:
    What was wrong with your other thread, where you had a link to the car park in question?
    I read that these parking "companies" monitor these sorts of forums. Just being cautious. 

    It seems there is nothing on the signs about ANPR cameras, I think they usually do advertise that. But could have got a notice because according to them they don't have to issue a physical notice. Apparently. Their whole Twitter page is dedicated to "debunking" so called "parking charge myths". 
  • B789
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    1990xrider said:

    I read that these parking "companies" monitor these sorts of forums. Just being cautious. 
    Really? Do you think that if they had rows of operatives scanning this forum for any tidbit of "scoop" they wouldn't be able to differentiate between two threads?

    These are intellectually malnourished companies that are only interested in getting as many gullible victims to pay into their scams. They don't have the time and resources to bother scanning for something on the off-chance they will stumble upon something useful that they could use against anyone.

    Their robo-claim conveyor belt system rakes in enough money thanks to the majority of gullible victims who have no idea about this forum and just keep feeding their scam.
  • Umkomaas
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    The men in black prowl again!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • 1990xrider
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    https://maps.app.goo.gl/UHtHtBN27Dirhjo86

    This was the car park. Purely hypothetical I know but if I were to receive an invoice could I argue I was not parked i was merely unloading as that was exactly what I was doing for one of the businesses. I couldn't have been parked up for more than ten mins at a time. 
  • Fruitcake
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    You definitely won't be getting any fines from UKPC.
    You might get multiple PCNs for multiple car park visits. The whole private parking industry is unregulated, and parking companies make up their own rules to generate revenue.
    I suggest you either get a permit or park elsewhere, especially if the parking operative gets a bonus for every ticket they issue.
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  • 1990xrider
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    edited 16 July 2023 at 9:36AM
    Fruitcake said:
    You definitely won't be getting any fines from UKPC.
    You might get multiple PCNs for multiple car park visits. The whole private parking industry is unregulated, and parking companies make up their own rules to generate revenue.
    I suggest you either get a permit or park elsewhere, especially if the parking operative gets a bonus for every ticket they issue.
    Sorry parking charge notices or invoices. 

    There is no where else to park and the signs do not tell you how you would get a permit.

    Does the ten minute grace period apply to private land. 
  • Umkomaas
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    Does the ten minute grace period apply to private land. 
    Check it out here. Read it carefully. Be aware that parking firms ignore it!

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • 1990xrider
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    Umkomaas said:
    Does the ten minute grace period apply to private land. 
    Check it out here. Read it carefully. Be aware that parking firms ignore it!

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf
    Seems like it wouldn't apply as it was a "parking event". 
  • Umkomaas
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    Umkomaas said:
    Does the ten minute grace period apply to private land. 
    Check it out here. Read it carefully. Be aware that parking firms ignore it!

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf
    Seems like it wouldn't apply as it was a "parking event". 
    That relates to the 'Consideration Period'.  A 'Grace Period', a minimum of 5 minutes in order to leave the car park, isn't a 'freebie' every time you want to use a private car park for whatever personal reasons you might have. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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