Dishwashers - Are they cheaper?

mi-key

You also need to take into the account the initial cost of the dishwasher. If you pay £400 or £500 for one, you will likely never make any overall saving. They are more for convenience for people who have a lot of washing up rather than for saving money

Bigphil1474

Agree that they are convenient rather than money saving generally. We don't have a dish washer, other than me, mainly because we don't have space. However, the hot water we use is on a timer, so would be available whether we use it for washing up or washing our hands - technically, I'd argue our washing up doesn't cost us anything in terms of water heating. We're not on a meter either for water. 
Even if they were, if the machine costs £400 for example, and you save 20p a day, that's5 and a half years before you get your outlay back assuming it doesn't break down in the meantime. 
I'd still have one if I could though!

DullGreyGuy

mi-key said:

You also need to take into the account the initial cost of the dishwasher. If you pay £400 or £500 for one, you will likely never make any overall saving. They are more for convenience for people who have a lot of washing up rather than for saving money

Assuming you are the buyer... we bought our current one but the ones we had before were in the properties when we moved in. In rentals you are in theory paying for it wether you use it or not though I doubt having a dishwasher -v- an extra cupboard makes any material difference in rent.

Section62

Bigphil1474 said:

However, the hot water we use is on a timer, so would be available whether we use it for washing up or washing our hands - technically, I'd argue our washing up doesn't cost us anything in terms of water heating.

If your system involves a hot water cylinder then you'll be paying for energy to heat the cold water which enters the cylinder to replace the hot water being used.

It costs more to heat water from cold than it does to heat already hot water.  Your energy bills would be lower if you didn't draw off any hot water at all... but that would defeat the object of having a hot water heating system.

mi-key

DullGreyGuy said:

mi-key said:

You also need to take into the account the initial cost of the dishwasher. If you pay £400 or £500 for one, you will likely never make any overall saving. They are more for convenience for people who have a lot of washing up rather than for saving money

Assuming you are the buyer... we bought our current one but the ones we had before were in the properties when we moved in. In rentals you are in theory paying for it wether you use it or not though I doubt having a dishwasher -v- an extra cupboard makes any material difference in rent.

True, but given the short lifespan most electrical products have now chances are if a previous owner bought it, you will need to replace it sooner rather than later!

mi-key

Plus given that the first thing anyone does these days when they buy a house is rip out perfectly good bathrooms and kitchens, chances are someone would end up buying a new one anyway

waqasahmed

mi-key said:

Plus given that the first thing anyone does these days when they buy a house is rip out perfectly good bathrooms and kitchens, chances are someone would end up buying a new one anyway

Not anywhere close to what I did