Better off in work calculator?

MoodyMand45

Does anyone know where i can get a "Better off in work" calculation done, when i look this up i am getting just benefit calculators.
Can job centres help with this?
I was offered this service by Restart Scheme however they have previously lost all my Information in a data breach so i don't trust them with personal Info.

kaMelo

I'm not sure what calculation you're trying to achieve but with universal credit the aim is you are always better off by working more.

calcotti

MoodyMand45 said:

Does anyone know where i can get a "Better off in work" calculation done, when i look this up i am getting just benefit calculators.

Use a benefit calculator and try putting different figures in and compare the results.

R200

Everything changes this September with higher earnings requirements for being on soft touch

Spoonie_Turtle

R200 said:

Everything changes this September with higher earnings requirements for being on soft touch

It changes nothing about how earnings are taken into account.

RichinFriends

Turn2Us or Entitled To websites.
I prefer Turn2Us. You must complete an assessment for your situation and then it offers the Better off in Work calculation where you input earnings, hours, and it shows you how much benefit you would then be entitled to in work.

funny_bunny

I use this https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/better-Off-Calculation

as @calcotti said, input different figures to see what works for you.

R200

It’s very interesting trying different scenarios 

DullGreyGuy

kaMelo said:

I'm not sure what calculation you're trying to achieve but with universal credit the aim is you are always better off by working more.

They'll be trying to calculate the impact of a potential new job/extra hours -v- the impact on their benefits. 

Whilst it's supposed to be that "working always pays" the reality is really more nuanced. A part time barmaid ran their numbers not too long ago with taking on another job and the net impact was something like £20 a week better off but she'd be working an extra 25 hours a week and so effectively being paid £0.80 hr (with a certain mentality). She was keen to do it as she says she likes being in work whereas her advisor (regular in the pub who works in the benefits department) says she'd be crazy to give up so much of her time for such little uplift in monies. 

kaMelo

DullGreyGuy said:

kaMelo said:

I'm not sure what calculation you're trying to achieve but with universal credit the aim is you are always better off by working more.

They'll be trying to calculate the impact of a potential new job/extra hours -v- the impact on their benefits. 

Whilst it's supposed to be that "working always pays" the reality is really more nuanced. A part time barmaid ran their numbers not too long ago with taking on another job and the net impact was something like £20 a week better off but she'd be working an extra 25 hours a week and so effectively being paid £0.80 hr (with a certain mentality). She was keen to do it as she says she likes being in work whereas her advisor (regular in the pub who works in the benefits department) says she'd be crazy to give up so much of her time for such little uplift in monies. 

And therein lies the problem, people viewing their benefits as a baseline with earnings as a top up rather than the other way around.