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Old UNION internal Door Locks, where to find key /lock number to get duplicate keys

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Hi All,

I got couple of old  UNION Locks with out any keys. How/where do I find lock /key number to order duplicate keys..? I searched all areas of lock that is visible, no number mentioned anywhere. Just wondering if I need to remove lock  from door panel to see the lock  number ..? If anyone familiar please let me know.  Getting lock out of door is bit tricky, so want to make sure I could get number if I removed lock and inspect it..? Thanks.




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  • jonnydeppiwish!
    jonnydeppiwish! Posts: 1,422 Forumite
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    If you’re going to remove
    to check for numbers, would it not be cheaper just to replace the whole thing? Has anyone lived in the house previously who still may have a key for it?
    2006 LBM £28,000+ in debt.
    2021 mortgage and debt free, working part time and living the dream
  • casper_gutman
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    Not all locks use standard numbered keys. I think the most likely scenario is that a skilled locksmith would need to custom make a key to fit, based on studying the lock. It's quite possible that replacing the whole thing would be cheaper, unfortunately.
  • Hi,
    what are numbers at bottom of first picture?
    Maybe get help HERE,
  • Emmia
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    I'd replace it - there's no guarantee the lock will work (it looks pretty ancient) even if you have a key.
  • sujsuj
    sujsuj Posts: 742 Forumite
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    If you’re going to remove
    to check for numbers, would it not be cheaper just to replace the whole thing? Has anyone lived in the house previously who still may have a key for it?
    This is 80 year old building. So not so keen to replace all locks as each door got locks and its very solid. I had these keys somehow lost...No way to find previous owners as house changed ownership not very recently. thanks
  • sujsuj
    sujsuj Posts: 742 Forumite
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    Hi,
    what are numbers at bottom of first picture?
    Maybe get help HERE,
    No number son that plate..I only fixed some of these lock issues couple of years ago. Still considering removing knob, pull out lever hopefully let me remove lock from door. 
  • sujsuj
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    Emmia said:
    I'd replace it - there's no guarantee the lock will work (it looks pretty ancient) even if you have a key.
    Lock was working perfectly until I lost keys,  though its aged. Since house is 80+ years old no point in just replacing lock as everything else around it looks old..
  • BUFF
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    edited 10 July 2023 at 12:05PM
    Almost certainly there won't be any marking for the lever config./differ on the lock itself.
    A good locksmith could work it out - it might be worth it if they are all keyed alike, if they are keyed to differ probably cheaper to replace.
  • jonnydeppiwish!
    jonnydeppiwish! Posts: 1,422 Forumite
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    sujsuj said:
    If you’re going to remove
    to check for numbers, would it not be cheaper just to replace the whole thing? Has anyone lived in the house previously who still may have a key for it?
    This is 80 year old building. So not so keen to replace all locks as each door got locks and its very solid. I had these keys somehow lost...No way to find previous owners as house changed ownership not very recently. thanks
    What I was trying to get at is that any previous owner may have a key and are able to unlock the door to gain entry. Standard practice to replace all external locks when you move into a ‘new’ property
    2006 LBM £28,000+ in debt.
    2021 mortgage and debt free, working part time and living the dream
  • Emmia
    Emmia Posts: 5,488 Forumite
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    sujsuj said:
    If you’re going to remove
    to check for numbers, would it not be cheaper just to replace the whole thing? Has anyone lived in the house previously who still may have a key for it?
    This is 80 year old building. So not so keen to replace all locks as each door got locks and its very solid. I had these keys somehow lost...No way to find previous owners as house changed ownership not very recently. thanks
    What I was trying to get at is that any previous owner may have a key and are able to unlock the door to gain entry. Standard practice to replace all external locks when you move into a ‘new’ property
    It's an internal door, so I don't think this is a concern. 

    If you take the lock out of the door, is there a number there?
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