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Shall I buy a house with retrospective planning recently refused?

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  • loubel
    loubel Posts: 1,010 Forumite
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    You're not going to get a mortgage on it with a rejected planning application. Sounds like one to walk away from and be thankful that you did your research before incurring any costs 
  • utc25
    utc25 Posts: 9 Forumite
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    That retrospective application took 8 months from submitted to refused. If owner does appeal how long the process will take? Longer than that?
    If I do make offer then at quickest will take 2 months to complete, and assume lender "allows" it either somehow it's slipped their radar or offers lower valuation, then I may still inherit the problem.
    The house does not look too perfect now, sigh. Any other pro/cons?
  • user1977
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    edited 5 July 2023 at 8:32PM
    The lender isn't going to "allow" it. Any recent planning applications will come up on the local search, even if a surveyor doesn't highlight that there's been a recent alteration. Solicitor will advise them not to lend.
  • Section62
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    utc25 said:
    That retrospective application took 8 months from submitted to refused. If owner does appeal how long the process will take? Longer than that?

    What were the reasons for refusal?  Councils typically don't refuse a retrospective application unless there is a good reason for doing so.

    The length of time for an appeal depends on the type of application, what the issues are, and the process used for dealing with the appeal.  You could guess at somewhere between 20 and 60 weeks, possibly much longer (based on May 2023 cases concluded)
  • koalakoala
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    Apparently the roof tiles?
  • CSI_Yorkshire
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    Section62 said:
    utc25 said:
    That retrospective application took 8 months from submitted to refused. If owner does appeal how long the process will take? Longer than that?

    What were the reasons for refusal?  Councils typically don't refuse a retrospective application unless there is a good reason for doing so.

    The length of time for an appeal depends on the type of application, what the issues are, and the process used for dealing with the appeal.  You could guess at somewhere between 20 and 60 weeks, possibly much longer (based on May 2023 cases concluded)
    Height of the extension, plus volume? and tile pattern of the loft conversion (although says that was PD) - if I interpret the OP correctly.
  • theoretica
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    If it was just the roof tiles it seems strange to me that it would be a flat refusal - rather than something more conditional or clear guidance.  Maybe planning just doesn't work that way.  DO you have a solicitor yet?  What do they say about the refusal letter?
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  • ThisIsWeird
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    edited 5 July 2023 at 10:24PM
    Will Planning discuss this matter with someone who isn't the owner? If not, then I guess you just give the owner the ultimatum - get written confirmation from Planning of everything that is required to comply, and then work out the cost of this. Deduct.
  • user1977
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    Will Planning discuss this matter with someone who isn't the owner? If not, then I guess you just give the owner the ultimatum - get written confirmation from Planning of everything that is required to comply, and then work out the cost of this. Deduct.
    How does that get past the mortgage problem?
  • stuhse
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    From what has been written,  planning was refused on two issues, none matching tiles and none matching windows.  I'd suggest as others , the house will not get a mortgage as is.  Planning should be granted once the two issues have been put right. I'd suggest the seller is going to have to do this, then resubmit planning.
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