Buying home electronics

moneysaver1978

For the first time in many years, I am now looking to buy a few things like fridge/freezer, TV, etc. for our new house.

I was surprised to see so many with poor energy rating and I haven't seen anything above D. I seem to remember my TV had an energy rating of A+ - what happened? New tech requiring higher power input or regulations around rating changed?

MattMattMattUK

moneysaver1978 said:

For the first time in many years, I am now looking to buy a few things like fridge/freezer, TV, etc. for our new house.

I was surprised to see so many with poor energy rating and I haven't seen anything above D. I seem to remember my TV had an energy rating of A+ - what happened? New tech requiring higher power input or regulations around rating changed?

Energy efficiency ratings were revised as almost everything on the market ended up as A+++. A current rating of D is equivalent to a previous A+++, there are currently no A or B rated appliances on the market and very few C rated, most are D-G. This is to allow for future innovation that lowers energy consumption, rather than them having to keep adding plus symbols to A. 

moneysaver1978

MattMattMattUK said:

moneysaver1978 said:

For the first time in many years, I am now looking to buy a few things like fridge/freezer, TV, etc. for our new house.

I was surprised to see so many with poor energy rating and I haven't seen anything above D. I seem to remember my TV had an energy rating of A+ - what happened? New tech requiring higher power input or regulations around rating changed?

Energy efficiency ratings were revised as almost everything on the market ended up as A+++. A current rating of D is equivalent to a previous A+++, there are currently no A or B rated appliances on the market and very few C rated, most are D-G. This is to allow for future innovation that lowers energy consumption, rather than them having to keep adding plus symbols to A. 

TIL!

Thank you.

Albermarle

TV's generally use less power than they used to . Leaving them on standby uses only a tiny amount of power nowadays.

HillStreetBlues

Albermarle said:

TV's generally use less power than they used to . Leaving them on standby uses only a tiny amount of power nowadays.

Agree with that.
Some are about £1 per year.

mark_cycling00

Appliances direct website allows you to enter the price of your electricity and how often you'd use the appliance, then it shows the most cost effective to buy.

A heat pump tumble dryer is almost same price as a normal one but is supposed to use 40% less electricity 

Progress!

HillStreetBlues

mark_cycling00 said:

A heat pump tumble dryer is almost same price as a normal one but is supposed to use 40% less electricity

Had a quick look on Argos, the cheapest heat pump is 50% more than a condenser, and over twice the price of a vented one.

MattMattMattUK

HillStreetBlues said:

mark_cycling00 said:

A heat pump tumble dryer is almost same price as a normal one but is supposed to use 40% less electricity

Had a quick look on Argos, the cheapest heat pump is 50% more than a condenser, and over twice the price of a vented one.

On John Lewis the cheapest heat pump tumble dryer is £429, vs £329 for a condenser, though, like for like on comparable models it does seem that the prices are roughly the same. Based on the standardised energy usage figures the heat pump model uses half the energy, an estimated saving of 308kWh pa, approximately £94 pa, so break even within a year based on the standardised usage, though actual mileage may vary based on individual's usage patterns. 

SaverRate

MattMattMattUK said:

HillStreetBlues said:

mark_cycling00 said:

A heat pump tumble dryer is almost same price as a normal one but is supposed to use 40% less electricity

Had a quick look on Argos, the cheapest heat pump is 50% more than a condenser, and over twice the price of a vented one.

On John Lewis the cheapest heat pump tumble dryer is £429, vs £329 for a condenser, though, like for like on comparable models it does seem that the prices are roughly the same. Based on the standardised energy usage figures the heat pump model uses half the energy, an estimated saving of 308kWh pa, approximately £94 pa, so break even within a year based on the standardised usage, though actual mileage may vary based on individual's usage patterns. 

A heat pump requires a heated room though, which if its not will make it less efficient. For example, We keep our tumble drier (condenser) in our conservatory so a heat pump wouldn't work in there

powerful_Rogue

SaverRate said:

MattMattMattUK said:

HillStreetBlues said:

mark_cycling00 said:

A heat pump tumble dryer is almost same price as a normal one but is supposed to use 40% less electricity

Had a quick look on Argos, the cheapest heat pump is 50% more than a condenser, and over twice the price of a vented one.

On John Lewis the cheapest heat pump tumble dryer is £429, vs £329 for a condenser, though, like for like on comparable models it does seem that the prices are roughly the same. Based on the standardised energy usage figures the heat pump model uses half the energy, an estimated saving of 308kWh pa, approximately £94 pa, so break even within a year based on the standardised usage, though actual mileage may vary based on individual's usage patterns. 

A heat pump requires a heated room though, which if its not will make it less efficient. For example, We keep our tumble drier (condenser) in our conservatory so a heat pump wouldn't work in there

My heat pump tumble dryer has been in the garage since I got it in October. No issues with that at all.

robatwork

MattMattMattUK said:

moneysaver1978 said:

For the first time in many years, I am now looking to buy a few things like fridge/freezer, TV, etc. for our new house.

I was surprised to see so many with poor energy rating and I haven't seen anything above D. I seem to remember my TV had an energy rating of A+ - what happened? New tech requiring higher power input or regulations around rating changed?

Energy efficiency ratings were revised as almost everything on the market ended up as A+++. A current rating of D is equivalent to a previous A+++, there are currently no A or B rated appliances on the market and very few C rated, most are D-G. This is to allow for future innovation that lowers energy consumption, rather than them having to keep adding plus symbols to A. 

Was in Argos today and noticed an LG OLED TV on the wall. Energy rating G - right at the bottom. Bit surprised as this is a current model.