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Neighbours are hanging stuff on my extension without permission

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  • Brie
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    Maybe you should get some lurid coloured paint and "protect" the wall with it.  With or without the plants in place.  Call it damp proofing or something.  

    OK - be nice to them and remove the plants and the rest before painting.  If something happens and the paint is painted over or whatever that will be further proof of them doing criminal damage.   
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  • 1234
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    edited 4 July 2023 at 7:32PM
    All the houses around here have the same extension except for my neighbour, I guess everyone will have issue if maintenance is ever required.

    I am also responsible for the fence.
  • TELLIT01
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    twopenny said:
    Is your extension so close to the boundary that you can't get in to remove their detritus? (Got to say that would be fun)
    So close you can't maintain the wall?
    Who is responsible for the fence?


    Building as close as possible to the boundary is pretty standard practice.  Depending on the requirement for guttering etc, 6" is about as close as the brickwork can get.
    My mother had a similar problem many years ago when new neighbours moved in.  They went one step further and actually took down the boundary fence and started attaching stuff to the garage wall.  The did desist once my mother explained the error of their ways to them.  They also put the fence back up.
  • casper_gutman
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    edited 5 July 2023 at 9:12AM
    1234 said:
    All the houses around here have the same extension except for my neighbour, I guess everyone will have issue if maintenance is ever required.

    I am also responsible for the fence.
    Not everyone will have the same issue: most others probably get on well enough with their neighbours that they have a reasonable expectation of being allowed access to maintain their walls.
  • 1234
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    I will give them the opportunity to remove themselves first.

  • ThisIsWeird
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    And the resulting holes?
  • Mistral001
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    edited 5 July 2023 at 3:50PM
    1234 said:
    Hi, i would greatly appreciate the advice

    Fell out with neighbour when we decided to build an extension. Whilst im happy to live here and not speak to them again.. they are just abusive about anything and everything. Unable to engage in a  civilised conversation to discuss any matter as they begin to use verbal abuse and threaten with physical violence. Other neighbours on the street have tried to intervene but they wont have anyone telling them what to do. 

    The extension wall is 150mm from the boundary fence inside on my property but i have only just discovered that there has been drilling to hang up garden furniture/ornaments and plant hangers on the extension wall. 

    Not happy about this as we have not given permission. I will be writing to them about having this removed but previously they have not allowed us to come on their side but want to ensure the damage they have caused is fixed.

    Just after advice if they refuse the above, what further steps would i need to take as i doubt we could fit between the fence and wall to remove ourselves?


    I would not write to them.  Even the most politely written letter will escalate the issue to a new level.  You need to talk to them about this problem.  It is between you and your neighbour and nobody else.  Simply express your wish that they do not fix things to your wall and leave the ball in their court.  If they do not put any more things up, then that at least, will be a sign that they are willing to listen to you. 
  • ThisIsWeird
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    I think this is all good info, as I certainly don't understand the letter of the law.
    For the OP, I pretty sure we are all advocating first giving the neighbour notice of what they need to do (evidenced). If they don't do it, the OP has the option of either taking legal action - which I suspect they'll win, or at least the neighb will capitulate before it goes too far (ie, as soon as the first notice arrives)) - or removing the offending objects themselves, with reasonable care, and returning them to the owner (evidenced).
    Anyone dealing with an 'ole-neighbour should cover themselves completely, and one of the best ways is by having a discrete recording for all your interactions. And by you being uber-reasonable and remaining fully within the law at all times. Should this go pear-shaped, it'll be a much easier job for the adjudicator to solve.
  • 1234
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    1234 said:
    Hi, i would greatly appreciate the advice

    Fell out with neighbour when we decided to build an extension. Whilst im happy to live here and not speak to them again.. they are just abusive about anything and everything. Unable to engage in a  civilised conversation to discuss any matter as they begin to use verbal abuse and threaten with physical violence. Other neighbours on the street have tried to intervene but they wont have anyone telling them what to do. 

    The extension wall is 150mm from the boundary fence inside on my property but i have only just discovered that there has been drilling to hang up garden furniture/ornaments and plant hangers on the extension wall. 

    Not happy about this as we have not given permission. I will be writing to them about having this removed but previously they have not allowed us to come on their side but want to ensure the damage they have caused is fixed.

    Just after advice if they refuse the above, what further steps would i need to take as i doubt we could fit between the fence and wall to remove ourselves?


    I would not write to them.  Even the most politely written letter will escalate the issue to a new level.  You need to talk to them about this problem.  It is between you and your neighbour and nobody else.  Simply express your wish that they do not fix things to your wall and leave the ball in their court.  If they do not put any more things up, then that at least, will be a sign that they are willing to listen to you. 
    Puts us in a very tight spot. I feel that writing to them would probably escalate to another level however, they are not willing to speak either, the minute we say "Hi can we have a talk about" and we are flooded with a barrage of abuse.


  • ThisIsWeird
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    edited 5 July 2023 at 9:06PM
    1234 said:
    1234 said:
    Hi, i would greatly appreciate the advice

    Fell out with neighbour when we decided to build an extension. Whilst im happy to live here and not speak to them again.. they are just abusive about anything and everything. Unable to engage in a  civilised conversation to discuss any matter as they begin to use verbal abuse and threaten with physical violence. Other neighbours on the street have tried to intervene but they wont have anyone telling them what to do. 

    The extension wall is 150mm from the boundary fence inside on my property but i have only just discovered that there has been drilling to hang up garden furniture/ornaments and plant hangers on the extension wall. 

    Not happy about this as we have not given permission. I will be writing to them about having this removed but previously they have not allowed us to come on their side but want to ensure the damage they have caused is fixed.

    Just after advice if they refuse the above, what further steps would i need to take as i doubt we could fit between the fence and wall to remove ourselves?


    I would not write to them.  Even the most politely written letter will escalate the issue to a new level.  You need to talk to them about this problem.  It is between you and your neighbour and nobody else.  Simply express your wish that they do not fix things to your wall and leave the ball in their court.  If they do not put any more things up, then that at least, will be a sign that they are willing to listen to you. 
    Puts us in a very tight spot. I feel that writing to them would probably escalate to another level however, they are not willing to speak either, the minute we say "Hi can we have a talk about" and we are flooded with a barrage of abuse.


    In which case, you report them.

    I cannot emphasise this enough; if you have a genuine 'ole living next to you who is anti-soc, abusive, spoils the enjoyment of your home, never mind causing actual damage, then nail them. 

    EVIDENCE, and then report. Escalate if needed.

    YOU do everything by the book - do not be intimidated. You NEED to evidence that you told them their actions are unacceptable, and to put it right. The more they cuss the better - as long as you are recording it.

    Apart from cussing, what can they do to you?!
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