Car dealership issues

tightauldgit

Possibly different for traders but last time I bought a car you did the change of keeper and tax online but the change of keeper was a pre-requisite for doing the tax. I thought that was because tax is now linked to the individual payer/keeper rather than the car.  I would have thought a trader with the V5C in front of them could/would have done the change of keeper and the tax at the same time. Weird that they didn't in your case.

Weirder still that the OP didn't get the new keeper green slip from the V5 if they had it at the time to tax the car.  

sheramber

Alderbank said:

sheramber said:

Alderbank said:

tightauldgit said:

Alderbank said:

tightauldgit said:

If the dealer isn't being helpful then you should be able to do this yourself with the DVLA surely? You need to get the car registered and taxed. From what I can see you can get a V62 apply to DVLA for a new log book and use that V62 to tax your car. Then you'll be legal to drive. 

You can but it takes ages.
DVLA are (rightfully) suspicious of any deal where someone has acquired a vehicle without going through the proper legal channels (is it stolen?) and they do a lot of checking including writing to the last registered keeper to confirm the sale.

Possibly but the internet says you can tax it with the V62 application (doesn't need to be approved) and you are good to go so it solves the problem. Having the actual registration documents in your name isn't really a problem unless you are planning to sell the car in the next few weeks.

The internet says a lot of things but the DVLA says only the registered keeper can tax it with a V62.

The dealer must have the V5C otherwise they would not have been able to tax the car for 6 months. They just cba to look for it.

the dealer never taxed it for 6 months or a year - presumably because they discovered they didn't have have the V5C

The original post says  'I phoned up the dealership and enquired why and they fobbed me off saying that they were only taxing it for 6 months. Which means I have been driving around without tax for 5 months!'

I took that to mean the dealer had taxed it from August to January. Have I misunderstood?

After contacting the garage again today I finally got through to someone helpful and he looked in to it. He admitted it was indeed an error on their part and it had never been registered. They are trying to get through to the previous owner for the log book so it can be taxed but no joy. 

sheramber

tightauldgit said:

Possibly different for traders but last time I bought a car you did the change of keeper and tax online but the change of keeper was a pre-requisite for doing the tax. I thought that was because tax is now linked to the individual payer/keeper rather than the car.  I would have thought a trader with the V5C in front of them could/would have done the change of keeper and the tax at the same time. Weird that they didn't in your case.

Weirder still that the OP didn't get the new keeper green slip from the V5 if they had it at the time to tax the car.  

 They are trying to get through to the previous owner for the log book so it can be taxed but no joy. 

born_again

sheramber said:

tightauldgit said:

Possibly different for traders but last time I bought a car you did the change of keeper and tax online but the change of keeper was a pre-requisite for doing the tax. I thought that was because tax is now linked to the individual payer/keeper rather than the car.  I would have thought a trader with the V5C in front of them could/would have done the change of keeper and the tax at the same time. Weird that they didn't in your case.

Weirder still that the OP didn't get the new keeper green slip from the V5 if they had it at the time to tax the car.  

 They are trying to get through to the previous owner for the log book so it can be taxed but no joy. 

Not sure that "Helpful" is a word I would have used.
Sounds more like yet another fob off. As a "reputable dealer with many Branches throughout the north." would not be buying or taking a car in P/X without the V5.

sheramber

I don't think the OP has told us who the reputable dealer is.

GraceCourt

Don't wait any longer for the dealer to take action - see https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/new-and-used-vehicles.

Download a V62 from https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-for-a-vehicle-registration-certificate and, after completing it, send it with £25 to DVLA.  At the same time, write to the dealer at its registered office (obtainable on-line from Companies House) giving them 14 days to send you £50 - the £25 expended and £25 damages for their error in failing to register the car as promised - else you will commence Part 27 proceedings in the County Court to recover this.

Once you've done this, taxing it at the same time if necessary, it isn't going to be possible to convict you for "no Vehicle Excise Licence" or for "fail to notify change of registered keeper" no matter how long it takes or even if the DVLA refuses to issue a new V5C in your name!

Alderbank

GraceCourt said:

Don't wait any longer for the dealer to take action - see https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/new-and-used-vehicles.

Agreed, used car salesmen sometimes tell porkies. The dealer isn't going to be interested a year after the sale.

Download a V62 from https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-for-a-vehicle-registration-certificate and, after completing it, send it with £25 to DVLA.
 At the same time, write to the dealer at its registered office (obtainable on-line from Companies House) giving them 14 days to send you £50 - the £25 expended and £25 damages for their error in failing to register the car as promised - else you will commence Part 27 proceedings in the County Court to recover this.

Poor advice.
The dealer will bin your demand, confident that you will not commence proceedings in the County Court to recover £25 in 'damages' - for what, a stamp to post your V62 to DVLA?

Once you've done this, taxing it at the same time if necessary, it isn't going to be possible to convict you for "no Vehicle Excise Licence" or for "fail to notify change of registered keeper" no matter how long it takes or even if the DVLA refuses to issue a new V5C in your name!

Very poor advice.
You can't tax at the same time. You could only tax at the same time if you are already the registered keeper or have the green slip. If you are not reg keeper and do not have green slip you must wait until DVLA have carried out various checks including confirming the sale with the reg keeper. This may take some time.

The V62 application warns that 'If you are not the registered keeper of the vehicle you may not be able to tax until you get a V5C in your name.'

          

tedted

no you can tax it at the same time when you apply for the reg doc,ive done it twice for friends at the post office

Alderbank

tedted said:

no you can tax it at the same time when you apply for the reg doc,ive done it twice for friends at the post office

Did you have the green slip?

tedted

no my friend never received the reg doc so i applied for it for him and taxed it at the same time same for the other friend