Smart dishwasher

Skintsaver

Hello, what are the advantages of wifi smart dishwashers? 

 Do they connect to your smart meter, and able to hold of the heating cycle when your exporting the most say? And purhaps alternate the heating cycle between that and the washing machine/other heavy loads? 

greensalad

Why don't you look at the specifications for whatever smart dishwasher you're interested in and find out?

rach_k

I think you are overestimating the level of 'smart'!

As far as I'm aware, smart devices like dishwashers and washing machines allow you to connect to the appliance via an app on your phone or using voice control e.g. Alexa or Google.  You can set the programme, see how long is left etc on your device without going to check and you can set alerts to tell you when they're done.  You can probably do a few extra things like set a start or finish time with a bit more accuracy than the standard 'start in X hours' button you get on many appliances.  Some of them will recommend different cycles based on what you tell it is in there, or based on what you usually do.  My washing machine reminds me when it's time to clean the drum and does tell me how much energy has been used but it doesn't use any information about the best time of day based on pricing.  But that's it really - worth the money IMO but not smart smart!

jonnydeppiwish!

And remember, it’s only as smart as the owner who remembers to turn it on…..

twopenny

You have to fill the machine and put in the tablets/powder etc. and you have to unload it.

You need to check the app to see if you have to reset the time/temperature etc each time.

If you wish to set it to go you can do so from anywhere so I guess if you're doing night work and are on a night rate electric it could be useful.

Lock or unlock the door of the dw from your app

See what stage it's at in the cycle

Tell you if it needs more detergent

Automatic check on how dirty the contents are and run accordingly - that could be more costly than choosing a programme just under what the washer says

But if it's not doing what you want you can not get at it if you are out of the house. Wonder if it tells you if it's flooding the floor?

Reading the pros and cons the upshot seems to be that it's quicker to just press the button on the machine.

Simonon77

I agree, it seems to be the fad to make everything 'smart' now, and charge the extra for it. Do we really need smart appliances? It is hardly a huge amount of work to set your dishwasher or washing machine going. The same with lighting. We have managed for years to control lights with our smart fingers.

It seems to be more stuff to go wrong built into them

DullGreyGuy

twopenny said:

You have to fill the machine and put in the tablets/powder etc. and you have to unload it. 

Load/unload absolutely but some hold a reservoir of powder so no need to add powder for each wash and similarly it'll advise if you are low on powder, salt and rinse aide.  So in theory if it was half full and you were waiting for it to be fuller before running it then friends say they're going to pop round and you remember there is something inside it you'll need you could remote start it... never happened to us but the theory is there.

Similarly with the "auto" programme it claims to detect the level of dirt in the waste water and adjust the electricity, heat, water, powder to minimise utilisation.  At the end it tells you the amount of water and electricity used.

Simonon77 said:

I agree, it seems to be the fad to make everything 'smart' now, and charge the extra for it. Do we really need smart appliances? It is hardly a huge amount of work to set your dishwasher or washing machine going. The same with lighting. We have managed for years to control lights with our smart fingers.

It seems to be more stuff to go wrong built into them

I could live happily without our dishwasher or hob etc being "smart" but there are small benefits with them all. Most have been bought for other features that just happen to come with smarts.

There are items where smart has been great and lights are certainly one of them. I still control them with my fingers, not keen on this voice thing, but not having to rewire to change the lighting zones was great. Brilliant to press one button that lowers the projector, screen and turns off lights. There is real difference in feel with white and yellow light which is easy to switch. 

Smart doorbell/CCTV has helped with a few security issues and disputes with couriers etc. 

For thousands of years we coped with having to build a fire to cook but despite that most of us are happy with the convenience of a hob and oven these days. 

Skintsaver

It looks like I can have apletts with ifttt and home assistant. It looks a real flaff and I've turned off some smart features with my heating as it just doesn't work, I suspect it'll be the same with a dishwasher. The extra cost probably will outweigh the savings made on running on peak solar. It would be nice to pause the dish washer while the kettles boiling. But in reality what would that save?

secla

I have a neff that connects to wifi, Its almost completely pointless as all it really allows you to do is remotely start it and change programs etc. So you load it put tablet in etc. and then you start it later ........ I cant see the point

Simonon77

secla said:

I have a neff that connects to wifi, Its almost completely pointless as all it really allows you to do is remotely start it and change programs etc. So you load it put tablet in etc. and then you start it later ........ I cant see the point

Exactly. If you have loaded it and put the tablet in, press start. Why would you want to do it by your phone later on!

Simonon77

I could live happily without our dishwasher or hob etc being "smart" but there are small benefits with them all. Most have been bought for other features that just happen to come with smarts.

There are items where smart has been great and lights are certainly one of them. I still control them with my fingers, not keen on this voice thing, but not having to rewire to change the lighting zones was great. Brilliant to press one button that lowers the projector, screen and turns off lights. There is real difference in feel with white and yellow light which is easy to switch. 

Smart doorbell/CCTV has helped with a few security issues and disputes with couriers etc. 

For thousands of years we coped with having to build a fire to cook but despite that most of us are happy with the convenience of a hob and oven these days. 

I tried using the hob in my friends mega fancy new kitchen. It looks like just a smooth bit of black glass with no buttons on it. You need to know where to swipe to turn it on, then have to swipe around to set the levels. Was quite amusing for 5 minutes, but once the novelty wore off was a lot more faff than just turning one knob on a normal hob. Of course it can be controlled by a phone as well