Can planning permission be appealed

Gavinalt

Giraffe76 said:

Hi all,

My mum and partner have a bungalow where they've lived for a long time. Last year they objected to planning permission applied for by a neighbour and the objection was upheld.
My mum has now told me that planning permission has been granted but on the plans it says that it will be a PLAYHOUSE even though it's going to be at the bottom of the neighbours garden and the building will be 4 METERS high and is going to severely block my mum's light off as it will tower over their garden. Never known a playhouse to be 4 meters high. Planning was never posted or advertised like the previous time and the council have said that as planning permission has already been granted their is very little that can be done.

Despite what the council said does anyone know or have experience of something like this and what can be done because otherwise they will have to move and my mum and her partner are both in their late 70s. Both of them have had cancer in the last 5 years and its extremely stressful, depressing and financially distressing.

My mum and partner dont object to their neighbours putting a building up but 4 Meters is going far too high and way past their fence.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated

Kind regards Mark 

Your mum and partner objected to a neighbor's planning permission, but it got approved under the guise of a "playhouse" despite being a 4-meter-high structure that blocks their light. The council claims there's little they can do since permission has already been granted. To tackle this, they should consult a planning consultant or lawyer, review the permission details, consider appealing, communicate with the neighbor, and reach out to local representatives for support. Seeking professional advice is crucial in this stressful and financially distressing situation.

CSI_Yorkshire

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Doozergirl

Giraffe76 said:

lincroft1710 said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

Giraffe76 said:

lincroft1710 said:

You don't say how far the proposed building is from your mother's actual bungalow.

It's about 7 meters

4 meters tall and 7 meters from your boundary which presumably has a 2 meter fence.

I honestly can't see this blocking out much sun maybe some early morning or late evening but only an hour at max given the angles associated.

I asked how far the 4 metre building was from the actual bungalow, rather than the boundary. If it is 7 metres from the bungalow, then it is very, very close.

Yes I was talking about it being 7 meters from the bungalow rather than the boundary.
So the council have said there's nothing that can be done because it's been passed. What my own personal theory is that they have looked at what my mum and partner have said in their objection letter ,slightly changed their plans and called it a playhouse but I've never known a playhouse to be 4 meters tall in an everyday garden. There is also anothe theory I have but I'm not going to reveal that.
So is there anything else that can be done?

I think it is worth pointing out to you that neighbourhood objections do not hold much weight in a planning application. 

Planning officers are well educated in their area of expertise and they make they decisions based on legislation by measuring each application against it.  They do not base their decisions on people's feelings. 

It is highly unlikely that you would point out something on a small application that the planning officer hasn't thought about.  The changes also probably have nothing to do with your objection, but from advice given by the planning officer. 

The ability to complain is not the same as the ability to influence and you are placing too much weight on your own input into anyone's decisions - neighbour or planning officer. 

Your neighbour can almost certainly build significant  (and ugly) structures in their garden without any formal permission by using permitted development rights. 

All that said, the reality is never as bad as the thought.  The room will be built, it will probably look quite nice and the impact will be minimal.  There is no privacy lost with two single storey buildings.  Threatening to move house over something that doesn't exist yet is a bit extreme.  

One day, your mother's bungalow was built and, no doubt, someone objected to it.  

Robin9

Next door to me there's a trampoline that probably 4m high. No problem at all - until the kids get to play

Soot2006

Doozergirl said:

I think it is worth pointing out to you that neighbourhood objections do not hold much weight in a planning application. 

Planning officers are well educated in their area of expertise and they make they decisions based on legislation by measuring each application against it.  They do not base their decisions on people's feelings. 

It is highly unlikely that you would point out something on a small application that the planning officer hasn't thought about.  The changes also probably have nothing to do with your objection, but from advice given by the planning officer. 

The ability to complain is not the same as the ability to influence and you are placing too much weight on your own input into anyone's decisions - neighbour or planning officer. 

Your neighbour can almost certainly build significant  (and ugly) structures in their garden without any formal permission by using permitted development rights. 

All that said, the reality is never as bad as the thought.  The room will be built, it will probably look quite nice and the impact will be minimal.  There is no privacy lost with two single storey buildings.  Threatening to move house over something that doesn't exist yet is a bit extreme.  

One day, your mother's bungalow was built and, no doubt, someone objected to it.  

This is a really important comment for the OP to take on board. I've seen it so many times in my neighbourhood - planning for new 2-3 floor house is denied and neighbours celebrate for having their objections against the new dominating structure heard ... only for the exact same house to then get approved, minus a front garden but plus two parking spaces instead, or with a different access arrangement or altered frontage ...

I also agree that the thought of the change is often more upsetting than the reality. In this case, it's worth letting the structure be built and then seeing if they can live with it. If not, there's still the option to move, although no guarantee the next neighbours won't do the same, or worse. Always better to sell one the new structure is in place rather than during construction since the new buyers wouldn't know any different.

Giraffe76

So now that everyone knows it's very close can anything be done

Grizebeck

Giraffe76 said:

So now that everyone knows it's very close can anything be done

No.......

Section62

Grizebeck said:

Giraffe76 said:

So now that everyone knows it's very close can anything be done

No.......

...except make a complaint to the council/ombudsman if the council didn't follow the correct process in notifying/consulting the OP's mum. (see my previous post for details)

sheramber

Do you  know for a fact that the previous application was refused because of your parents objection or was it due to some other reason? 

My council only advertised applications in the local paper. a site notice and on their planning application website. No neighbour notification.

molerat

Is there a "Report Of Handling" on the planning portal ?  That would give an insight into the decision and the portal should show any revised plans etc.