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Can planning permission be appealed

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  • MultiFuelBurner
    MultiFuelBurner Posts: 2,928 Forumite
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    Giraffe76 said:
    You don't say how far the proposed building is from your mother's actual bungalow.
    It's about 7 meters
    4 meters tall and 7 meters from your boundary which presumably has a 2 meter fence.

    I honestly can't see this blocking out much sun maybe some early morning or late evening but only an hour at max given the angles associated.


    I asked how far the 4 metre building was from the actual bungalow, rather than the boundary. If it is 7 metres from the bungalow, then it is very, very close.
    It doesn't alter my response as I presumed. The angle down from 4m over 7m distance means either an hour of sun morning or evening depending on building orientation and if it even has windows and doors that side.

    I can see why planning would have been agreed.

    I wouldn't bother appealing that decision
  • lincroft1710
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    Giraffe76 said:
    You don't say how far the proposed building is from your mother's actual bungalow.
    It's about 7 meters
    4 meters tall and 7 meters from your boundary which presumably has a 2 meter fence.

    I honestly can't see this blocking out much sun maybe some early morning or late evening but only an hour at max given the angles associated.


    I asked how far the 4 metre building was from the actual bungalow, rather than the boundary. If it is 7 metres from the bungalow, then it is very, very close.
    It doesn't alter my response as I presumed. The angle down from 4m over 7m distance means either an hour of sun morning or evening depending on building orientation and if it even has windows and doors that side.

    I can see why planning would have been agreed.

    I wouldn't bother appealing that decision
    An hour of sun a day is not a lot. But unless there is a loss of light to the actual bungalow, there would have little to support an objection, had they been in time. It appears to be a fait accompli and I agree there is little point in trying to appeal
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • Robin9
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    The Planning Application would have included elevation, location and general arrangement drawings and some material detail. Also there would be a schedule of who was notified.

    It would be good if the OP could give us the reference number.
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  • user1977
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    Giraffe76 said:
    You don't say how far the proposed building is from your mother's actual bungalow.
    It's about 7 meters
    4 meters tall and 7 meters from your boundary which presumably has a 2 meter fence.

    I honestly can't see this blocking out much sun maybe some early morning or late evening but only an hour at max given the angles associated.


    I asked how far the 4 metre building was from the actual bungalow, rather than the boundary. If it is 7 metres from the bungalow, then it is very, very close.
    I wouldn't bother appealing that decision
    Which isn't possible anyway, unless there are grounds for a judicial review. Which is immensely unlikely.
  • Robin9
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    Would grounds be that the Council didn't advice the neighbours ?
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  • user1977
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    Robin9 said:
    Would grounds be that the Council didn't advice the neighbours ?
    Potentially. But probably unlikely, and in any event it would just mean the decision being made again, this time after serving notice - which may well result in it simply being granted again.
  • Giraffe76
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    Giraffe76 said:
    You don't say how far the proposed building is from your mother's actual bungalow.
    It's about 7 meters
    4 meters tall and 7 meters from your boundary which presumably has a 2 meter fence.

    I honestly can't see this blocking out much sun maybe some early morning or late evening but only an hour at max given the angles associated.


    I asked how far the 4 metre building was from the actual bungalow, rather than the boundary. If it is 7 metres from the bungalow, then it is very, very close.
    Yes I was talking about it being 7 meters from the bungalow rather than the boundary.
    So the council have said there's nothing that can be done because it's been passed. What my own personal theory is that they have looked at what my mum and partner have said in their objection letter ,slightly changed their plans and called it a playhouse but I've never known a playhouse to be 4 meters tall in an everyday garden. There is also anothe theory I have but I'm not going to reveal that.
    So is there anything else that can be done?
  • lincroft1710
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    In practical terms, I don't think that there is anything that can be done.


    You have repeatedly said the building is 4 metres high but you have't said how wide it is. Have you looked at the details on the planning application, are they accurate? For example does the site plan state the correct distance from the bungalow to the "playhouse".
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • Section62
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    Giraffe76 said:
    You don't say how far the proposed building is from your mother's actual bungalow.
    It's about 7 meters
    4 meters tall and 7 meters from your boundary which presumably has a 2 meter fence.

    I honestly can't see this blocking out much sun maybe some early morning or late evening but only an hour at max given the angles associated.


    I asked how far the 4 metre building was from the actual bungalow, rather than the boundary. If it is 7 metres from the bungalow, then it is very, very close.
    It doesn't alter my response as I presumed. The angle down from 4m over 7m distance means either an hour of sun morning or evening depending on building orientation and if it even has windows and doors that side.

    I can see why planning would have been agreed.

    I wouldn't bother appealing that decision
    That information would be relevant for assessing direct sun/shadow (at ground level), but the actual impact on natural light levels in the existing property is more complicated than that, and could be quite significant depending on the circumstances (e.g. loss of  'North light' in the Winter months).  Each case would be assessed on its own merits.
  • Section62
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    Giraffe76 said:
    Giraffe76 said:
    You don't say how far the proposed building is from your mother's actual bungalow.
    It's about 7 meters
    4 meters tall and 7 meters from your boundary which presumably has a 2 meter fence.

    I honestly can't see this blocking out much sun maybe some early morning or late evening but only an hour at max given the angles associated.


    I asked how far the 4 metre building was from the actual bungalow, rather than the boundary. If it is 7 metres from the bungalow, then it is very, very close.
    ...

    So is there anything else that can be done?
    Check the council's policy on notification/consultation for planning applications of this type - who do they contact, what advertising/street notices do they normally do.

    If the council didn't do what they said they should then consider making a complaint to the council, followed by a complaint to the Ombudsman if you don't get very far with the council.

    The Ombudsman cannot overturn the planning consent, but if the council has failed to do what it should have done then they may be told to do something to help mitigate the impact on your mum's property.
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