IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Unpaid CCJ letter received from DCBL today

16781012

Comments

  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    remzeh1 said:
    Hi guys, I am drafting my witness statement to send in case they don't discontinue...

    One thing I've noted reading other people's WS - they are commenting on the Claimant's WS...

    I don't have a WS from the Claimant?
    Both the Claimant and the Defendant have the same Witness Statement and evidence filing deadline.

    You are hoping to see the Claimant's submission before filing yours, but best to have yours ready for filing - just leaving some slight tweaking in the hope that the Claimant files theirs a bit early.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,437 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 2 October 2023 at 7:36PM
    remzeh1 said:
    Hi guys, I am drafting my witness statement to send in case they don't discontinue...

    One thing I've noted reading other people's WS - they are commenting on the Claimant's WS...

    I don't have a WS from the Claimant?
    Their deadline for submitting their WS is the same as yours. Very few posters receive the Claimant's WS any earlier than the deadline.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,835 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 2 October 2023 at 7:50PM
    One thing I've noted reading other people's WS - they are commenting on the Claimant's WS...

    I don't have a WS from the Claimant?
    So remove that bit.

    You won't get a WS as DCBLegal will soon discontinue.

    You've hopefully been reading threads though and sussed the HHJ Murch judgment we are telling everyone to include as an exhibit now.

    As seen in threads such as by @vincentvega27
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • remzeh1
    remzeh1 Posts: 94 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 10 Posts Name Dropper
    anyone know?
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,702 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    remzeh1 said:
    anyone know?
    Anyone know what?  Don't the answers you've been given help?
  • remzeh1
    remzeh1 Posts: 94 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 10 Posts Name Dropper
    Hi all, please see my first draft below, any comments or help are greatly appreciated, many thanks:



    Witness Statement of XXXXX


    1.   I am Mr xxxxxx, ( Address:....) and I am the defendant against whom this claim is made. The facts below are true to the best of my belief and my account has been prepared based upon my own knowledge.

     

    2.   In my statement I shall refer to (Exhibits X-X) within the evidence supplied with this statement, referring to page and reference numbers where appropriate. My defence is repeated and I will say as follows:


    Facts and Sequence of events


    3.       This matter relates to a parking charge issued to my vehicle (registration: XXXXX) on XXXXX. It is admitted that I was the registered keeper and driver of this vehicle. I confirm the vehicle was parked in bay number XX at all times.

     

    4.   Despite being a tenant/leaseholder to Apartment XXXXX and relevant parking bay number XXXX, in accordance with the parking related terms within the respective AST/Lease (Exhibit XX-1), a parking charge was issued to the vehicle by the Claimant.


    5.        At all material times, I parked in accordance with the terms granted by the lease. The erection of the Claimant's signage, and the purported contractual terms conveyed therein, are incapable of binding the Defendant in any way, and their existence does not constitute a legally valid variation of the terms of the lease. 

     

    6.   Therefore, liability for the alleged debt is disputed in its entirety based on the well-established legal principle of primacy of contract: the agreement (Full AST supplied to the Court along with this Witness Statement, with the specific terms relating to the parking space found in Section 4 on Page 19, also shown in Exhibit XX-1 for ease) that exists between the tenant and their landlord extends to the use of the specified parking space and overrides any purported contract conveyed by the claimant’s insufficient, demonstrably illegible signage (Exhibit XX-2). The Claimant never requested or received my consent to operate on my property and therefore the use of the parking bay by the Claimant was never permitted.

     

    7.   The AST/Lease makes no assertion that a permit must be displayed to use the bay, nor that a penalty of £100 must be paid in the event of a failure to do so. The AST/Lease specifically states the following, and only the following, regarding the parking space (Section 4 on page 19):

    • Only park roadworthy and taxed private motor vehicles

    • Only park in the allocated space

    • Not sublet or share the car parking space

    • Not to work on any vehicles parked in allocated spaces beyond normal day to day issues such as checking oil levels, refilling screen wash bottles.

    8.   I contend, therefore, that the Lease agreement provides an unfettered right for the AST/leaseholder to park in their assigned bay. This cannot be superseded, altered, or ignored by a parking management company post hoc. A permit was therefore not required and the parking charge is therefore invalid.

    9.        Even had the lease required a permit to be displayed, accordingly, I still believe that I never breached any contractual terms whether express, implied, or by conduct. When I lived in the apartment, I used to display a permit out of courtesy, rather than an obligation, however, the one on display at the time of the alleged parking event was out of date as I had just returned from holiday and had gone to take my luggage up to my apartment and then gone to retrieve a new, in-date, permit from the concierge office. Upon my return to the vehicle, I found I had been issued with a parking charge notice from the Claimant. Even if I had been required to display a permit by the AST, I still did not breach the parking conditions when taking into consideration the BPA Code of Practice, as going to retrieve an in-date permit was allowable under the Consideration Period which allows at least 5 minutes to retrieve a valid permit. The Claimant has evidenced they were only present at the vehicle for 1 minute as shown by the timestamps on their photos (Exhibit 3).

     

    10.   The Claimant’s signage (Exhibit XX-2) is effectively offering the parking bay I was the leaseholder for, to anyone, at a daily charge of £100. Thus, they appear to have been running a business on my property without my consent.

     

    11.   I recall receiving all of the correspondence from the Claimant, however, ignored their letters thinking that this was a scam and that it surely wasn’t possible to have been charged for parking in a bay to which I was the leaseholder and had an unfettered right to park within. I do recall however that the majority of the correspondence received from the Claimant, their debt recovery partners, and their representation, has been threatening, misleading, and in several instances, absolutely duplicitous.

     

    12. Accordingly, it is maintained that the Defendant has no liability for this debt and that the Claimant has acted immorally and deceitfully on several occasions, pursuing the alleged debt in an aggressive and intimidating fashion, with the singular intention of coercing the debt from the defendant with continued threats of legal action. No effort was made whatsoever to address the very reasonable assertions made by the Defendant that the driver had every right to park in the bay in question; if this particular parking management company truly aimed to protect the rights of residents, this matter could have been resolved amicably and swiftly, without the need of involving the courts.


    Exaggerated Claim and 'market failure' currently examined by the Government

    13. The alleged 'core debt' from any parking charge cannot have exceeded £100 (the industry cap set out in the applicable Code of Practice at the time). I have seen no evidence that the added damages/fees are genuine.

    14. I say that fees were not paid out or incurred by this Claimant, who is to put strict proof of:

    (i) the alleged breach, and

    (ii)  a breakdown of how they arrived at the enhanced quantum claimed, including how interest has been calculated, which appears to have been applied improperly on the entire inflated sum, as if that figure was immediately overdue on the day of an alleged parking event.

    15. This Claimant routinely pursues a disproportionate additional fixed sum(inexplicably added per PCN) despite knowing that the will of Parliament is to ban or substantially reduce the disproportionate 'Debt Fees'. This case is a classic example where the unjust enrichment of exaggerated fees encourages the 'numbers game' of inappropriate and out of control bulk litigation of weak/archive parking cases. No pre-action checks and balances are likely to have been made to ensure facts, merit, position of signs/the vehicle, or a proper cause of action.

    16. The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (the DLUHC) first published its statutory Parking Code of Practice on 7th February 2022, here: 

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/private-parking-code-of-practice

    "Private firms issue roughly 22,000 parking tickets every day, often adopting a labyrinthine system of misleading and confusing signage, opaque appeals services, aggressive debt collection and unreasonable fees designed to extort money from motorists."

    17. Despite legal challenges delaying the Code's implementation (marking it as temporarily 'withdrawn' as shown in the link above) a draft Impact Assessment (IA) to finalise the DLUHC Code was recently published on 30th July 2023, which has exposed some industry-gleaned facts about supposed 'Debt Fees'. This is revealed in the Government's analysis, found here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1171438/Draft_IA_-_Private_Parking_Code_of_Practice_.pdf

    18. Paragraphs 4.31 and 5.19 reveal that the parking industry has informed the DLUHC that the true minor cost of what the parking industry likes to call debt recovery or 'enforcement' (pre-action) stage totals a mere £8.42 per recovery case.

    19. With that sum in mind, it is clear that the extant claim has been enhanced by an excessive amount, disingenuously added as an extra 'fee'. This is believed to be routinely retained by the litigating legal team and has been claimed in addition to the intended 'legal representatives fees' cap set within the small claims track rules. This conduct has been examined and found - including in a notably detailed judgment by Her Honour Judge Jackson, now a specialist Civil High Court Judge on the Leeds/Bradford circuit - to constitute 'double recovery' and the Defendant takes that position.

    20. The new draft IA now demonstrates that the unnecessarily intimidating stage of pre-action letter-chains actually costs 'eight times less' (says the DLUHC analysis) than the price-fixed £70 per PCN routinely added. This has caused consumer harm in the form of hundreds of thousands of inflated CCJs each year that District Judges have been powerless to prevent. This abusively enhanced 'industry standard' Debt Fee was enabled only by virtue of the self-serving Codes of Practice of the rival parking Trade Bodies, influenced by a Board of parking operators and debt firms who stood to gain from it.

    21. In support of my contention that the sum sought is unconscionably exaggerated and thus unrecoverable, attention is drawn to paras 98, 100, 193, 198 of ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC67 ('the Beavis case'). Also ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield Stores Ltd ChD [2011] EWHC 4023(QB) where the parking charge was £75, discounted to £37.50 for prompt payment. Whilst £75 was reasonable, HHJ Hegarty (decision later ratified by the CoA) held in paras 419-428 that unspecified 'admin costs' inflating a parking charge to £135 was not a true reflection of the cost of a template letter and 'would appear to be penal.

    22. This Claimant has not incurred any additional costs because the full parking charge (after expiry of discount) is already high and more than covers what the Supreme Court called an 'automated letter-chain' business model that generates a healthy profit. In Beavis, there were 4 or 5 letters in total, including pre-action phase reminders. The £85 parking charge was held to cover the 'costs of the operation' and the DLUHC's IA suggests it should still be the case that the parking charge itself more than covers the minor costs of pre-action stage, even if and when the Government reduces the level of parking charges.

    23. Whilst the new Code is not retrospective, the majority of the clauses went unchallenged by the parking industry and it stands to become a creature of statute due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes. The DLUHC's Secretary of State mentions they are addressing 'market failure' more than once in the draft IA, a phrase which should be a clear steer for Courts in 2023 to scrutinise every aspect of claims like this one.

    24. In addition, pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable. It is also disproportionate and in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (CRA).


    CRA Breaches

    25. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the CRA which introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes a test of fairness and clarity of signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer.


    26. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well-placed (and lit in hours of darkness/dusk) and all terms must be unambiguous and contractual obligations clear.


    27. The CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith (NB: this does not necessarily mean there has to be a finding of bad faith).


    28. Now for the first time, the DLUHC's draft IA exposes that template 'debt chaser' stage costs less than £9. This shows that HHJ Jackson was  right all along in Excel v Wilkinson. (See 

    Exhibit  xx-06)


    The Beavis case is against this claim 

    29. The Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, given the location and clear signs with the charges in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, that case, in particular, the brief, conspicuous yellow & black warning signs - (see Exhibit xx-05) - set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach.


    30. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. (See Exhibit xx-04 )for paragraphs from ParkingEye v Beavis).


    31. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. There is one clear issue that renders this parking charge to be purely penal (i.e. no legitimate interest saves it) and thus, it is unenforceable:


    Hidden Terms:

    The £100 penalty clause is positively buried in small print, as seen on the signs in evidence.  The purported added (false) 'costs' are even more hidden and are also unspecified as a sum.  Their (unlawful, due to the CRA Schedule 2 grey list of unfair terms) suggestion is that they can hide a vague sentence within a wordy sign, in the smallest possible print, then add whatever their trade body lets them, until the DLUHC bans it in 2024. And the driver has no idea about any risk nor even how much they might layer on top.  None of this was agreed by me, let alone known or even seen as I parked in my own designated bay which I was allowed to do under the terms of my AST without displaying a permit. Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a charge, include:

    1. Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and


    1. Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and


    1. Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space".

  • remzeh1
    remzeh1 Posts: 94 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 10 Posts Name Dropper
    This is all I could fit in the box to put in above^

    I also have - Lack of landowner authority paragraph

    Is it worth putting in 'Abuse of process' paragraphs?

    Then I need to add my witness costs paragraph

    Anything else?

    Thanks
  • patient_dream
    patient_dream Posts: 3,932 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Fourth Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 3 October 2023 at 10:59PM
    remzeh1 said:
    This is all I could fit in the box to put in above^

    I also have - Lack of landowner authority paragraph

    Is it worth putting in 'Abuse of process' paragraphs?

    Then I need to add my witness costs paragraph

    Anything else?

    Thanks
    I will let others comment 

    Abuse of process is now old hat. Whilst it is ABUSE it is DOUBLE RECOVERY which is a feeble attempt by DCBL especially when they add a fake amount and call it DAMAGES ... which is rubbish

    PLUS, no doubt the claim is signed by YASMIN MIA as a statement of truth ...... another FAKE

    Yasmin has not read ...

    PRACTICE DIRECTION 22 – STATEMENTS OF TRUTH

    https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part22/pd_part22

    Play the game with DCBL, , WE LOVE IT, 
    In a pack of cards there are 52 .. and a JOKER CARD
    A prime case to discontinue this total rubbish
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    remzeh1 said:
    This is all I could fit in the box to put in above^
    Then show us the rest in subsequent posts.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,835 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    You've hopefully been reading threads though and sussed the HHJ Murch judgment we are telling everyone to include as an exhibit now.

    As seen in threads such as by @vincentvega27
    I've seen nothing so far in that WS that looks like you have taken the above advice and found the silver bullet exhibit of the CEL v Chan judgment.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.