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PV Quote 12.3KW

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Just about ready to go ahead and thought it's only sensible to see what others may think of my quote. We are a high usage household. South facing. No shade.

30x JA Solar 410W
30x SolarEdge Optimisers
1x SolarEdge 10kw inverter
1x SolarEdge 10kw battery

~ £22,000 all in (labour, equip, install)
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  • 94JDH
    94JDH Posts: 146 Forumite
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    Just about ready to go ahead and thought it's only sensible to see what others may think of my quote. We are a high usage household. South facing. No shade.

    30x JA Solar 410W
    30x SolarEdge Optimisers
    1x SolarEdge 10kw inverter
    1x SolarEdge 10kw battery

    ~ £22,000 all in (labour, equip, install)
    Any reason, other than local monitoring of each panel, why you need optimisers if you've n shade?
    PV total 19.8 kW system:
    23 x 420W East/West split over two flat roof areas at 10 degrees inclination.
    13 x 390W South spit over two flat roof areas at 5 to 20 degrees inclination.
    6 x 390W south wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    7 x 390W West wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    2 x 5 kW hybrid inverters
    4 x 9.5 kWh batteries (38 kWh total)
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,383 Forumite
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    Prices have gone up considerably since the gas restrictions from Russia, then the full invasion of Ukraine, but .... that still looks pretty expensive.

    My sister got lucky, in that she had a 10.3kWp install in late summer 2021, so just before things got crazee, and also, already had scaffolding up, but the price was under £9k. It wasn't Solaredge, so a bit cheaper, and no battery, but still ..... my gut says that's that a lot.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,255 Forumite
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    If you've genuinely got no shade, the optimisers are an unnecessary luxury.
    Personally I'd skip the battery for now and take advantage of the export tariffs on offer.
    The bottom line seems a little bit steep, even allowing for the SolarEdge premium!
    I suspect there will be someone along shortly to give you a more detailed opinion.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • primmer10590
    primmer10590 Posts: 17 Forumite
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    94JDH said:
    Just about ready to go ahead and thought it's only sensible to see what others may think of my quote. We are a high usage household. South facing. No shade.

    30x JA Solar 410W
    30x SolarEdge Optimisers
    1x SolarEdge 10kw inverter
    1x SolarEdge 10kw battery

    ~ £22,000 all in (labour, equip, install)
    Any reason, other than local monitoring of each panel, why you need optimisers if you've n shade?
    Agreed, purely monitoring, it could be something we go without, I think that's a saving of ~£1.5-2k there?
  • Screwdriva
    Screwdriva Posts: 1,524 Forumite
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    edited 5 June 2023 at 6:30PM
    SolarEdge inverters only work with their optimizers and they provide protection from all sorts of shading. They also allow panel level performance monitoring across multiple roof aspects. I wouldn't swap them out as that means removing SolarEdge, which is an excellent inverter. 

    I do agree that the battery may be unnecessary unless you have a household that consumes >4 mW per annum. (Heatpump, driving alot with EVs etc) Would be good to know your annual consumption #s.

    Here's the part I suspect you'll like the most. Based on a v. similar quote I've seen recently, you should be paying < £12K fully installed for the following:

    30 - Sharp 410W Panels
    30 - SolarEdge Optmizers 
     1  - SolarEdge Inverter.

    20+ year extended warranty on the inverter. G99 certificate. Add another £~8K for the SolarEdge 10kWh battery if you really must have it.

    Based on the >10% difference in price, I wouldn't proceed with your existing quote (unless you live in Scotland where I hear things are more expensive).

    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • primmer10590
    primmer10590 Posts: 17 Forumite
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    SolarEdge inverters only work with their optimizers and they provide protection from all sorts of shading. They also allow panel level performance monitoring. I wouldn't swap them out.

    I do agree that the battery is unnecessary unless you have a household that consumes >4 mW per annum. Heatpumps, driving alot with EVs etc. Would be good to know your annual consumption.

    Here's the part I suspect you'll like the most. Based on a similar quote I've seen recently, you should be paying < £12K fully installed for the following:

    30 - Sharp 410W Panels
    30 - SolarEdge Optmizers 
     1  - SolarEdge Inverter.

    20+ year extended warranty on the inverter. G99 certificate. Add another £~8K for the SolarEdge 10kWh battery if you really must have it.

    Based on the >10% difference in price, I wouldn't proceed with your existing quote (unless you live in Scotland where I hear things are more expensive).

    Interesting, so the battery is a must for us, I might ask them to re-quote, this was from February and we are just about to proceed. I did try to add up myself using Midsummer and I got to ~£19,000. That included scaffolding, labour, electrician, battery, inverter, optimisers, panels, cables, battery stand, modbus and roof racking. Am I missing anything anything else?
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,255 Forumite
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    I knew Screwdriva would be along with a more sensible price :)
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • Screwdriva
    Screwdriva Posts: 1,524 Forumite
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    edited 5 June 2023 at 7:31PM
    Great call! Only thing that gets to me more than Chinese kit, is overpaying for Chinese kit! :)
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • ispookie666
    ispookie666 Posts: 1,194 Forumite
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    @primmer10590
    I'm firmly in the Solar + Battery group 

    Do you know approximately how much kWh you use from 4pm to 12am? 

    We use around 7000kWh/year and from Nov to march, we were using the battery a lot more than I had factored in. I'm glad I went with 16.2kWh. 

    I'm on E7 and had to do some Charging from the grid till early April.  

    There is a recent thread about optimisers and microinverters on here. If you have a South facing roof with minimal shading, any of the above are just fancy, unless you are a data geek. 


    “Don't raise your voice, improve your argument." - Desmond Tutu

    System 1 - 14 x 250W SunModule SW + Enphase ME215 microinverters (July 2015)
    System 2 - 9.2 KWp + Enphase IQ7+ and IQ8AC (Feb 22 & Sep 24) + Givenergy AC Coupled inverter + 2 * 8.2KWh Battery (May 2022) + Mitsubishi 7.1 KW and 2* Daikin 2.5 KW A2A Heat Pump
  • Jonboy1889
    Jonboy1889 Posts: 168 Forumite
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    edited 5 June 2023 at 8:24PM
    30 optimisers is a lot of optimisers to go wrong 😂 apparently they have a reasonably high failure rate (2.2% according to an installer of 130 SE systems in Australia)- as long as you’re willing to get some scaffolding up for when that happens (SORRY NOW FIXED MY DODGY STAT!!)

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