Parking inside double red lines

npa61

My son parked his car in a layby type area which was fronted by double red lines. So, he drove over the red lines but parked in a gravelled area the shape and size of a layby or bus stop. He parked alongside others and as there was no signs which said no parking here etc he felt ok to park as he sas nkt on the road at all. He has now received a PCN of £70, reduced to £35 for prompt payment.  Was he in the wrong as is being suggested to park behind the double reds? Should he dispute payment?  Thanks 

KeithP

Who is demanding money from him? 
Which company? Or is is a council issued notice?

Keep_pedalling

Double Reds will council. Like double yellows you are only allowed to stop in permitted lay-bys. These won’t have a double red across them but a broken red line around the bay and a notice detailing the restrictions. 

https://www.drivingtesttips.biz/what-are-red-routes-lines.html#:~:text=parking%20on%20Red%20Routes,red%20route%20double%20red%20lines.

fisherjim

Double yellow lines and double red lines on a highway are enforced from the road to the boundary of the property along side so parking off the road on a pavement or verge etc is still covered by the restriction in general..

But if this is an authority ticket as it suggests you need to take it over to Pepipoo they are the experts in proper fines we major on (fake) private parking charges.

npa61

Thanks for responding.  

Coupon-mad

Like double yellows you are only allowed to stop in permitted lay-bys.

Just to put right a common misconception because this (about double yellows) isn't correct.

You are always allowed to stop (briefly or for exempt activity) on double yellow lines.  I use them as intended, often!  Certain activity is what yellows are there to allow.  They do not mean "no stopping" like double reds do.

KeithP

npa61 said:

Thanks for responding.  

...and any answers to my questions?

Keep_pedalling

Coupon-mad said:

Like double yellows you are only allowed to stop in permitted lay-bys.

Just to put right a common misconception because this (about double yellows) isn't correct.

You are always allowed to stop (briefly or for exempt activity) on double yellow lines.  I use them as intended, often!  Certain activity is what yellows are there to allow.  They do not mean "no stopping" like double reds do.

Yup I should have said park rather than stop.

Half_way

npa61 said:

Thanks for responding.  

Who/what entity issued the ticket?

and where?

There is a huge difference between private companies who can and do make up the rules as they please, and local authorities/police etc who have to follow set rules, with genuine avenues of appeal.

 As far as i know if its a private  company the double red lines could mean parking for red cars only, or no parking for red cars

Boat_to_Bolivia

Half_way said:

npa61 said:

Thanks for responding.  

Who/what entity issued the ticket?

and where?

There is a huge difference between private companies who can and do make up the rules as they please, and local authorities/police etc who have to follow set rules, with genuine avenues of appeal.

 As far as i know if its a private  company the double red lines could mean parking for red cars only, or no parking for red cars

The OP appears reluctant to answer questions?

born_again

npa61 said:

My son parked his car in a layby type area which was fronted by double red lines. So, he drove over the red lines but parked in a gravelled area the shape and size of a layby or bus stop. He parked alongside others and as there was no signs which said no parking here etc he felt ok to park as he sas nkt on the road at all. He has now received a PCN of £70, reduced to £35 for prompt payment.  Was he in the wrong as is being suggested to park behind the double reds? Should he dispute payment?  Thanks 

At some point on the road will be signs that he will have driven past saying "RED ROUTE CLEARWAY" & no stopping. These will be at the start of the area, & at the end it will say "RED ROUTE CLEARWAY ENDS"  
What's the odds this is around a airport.

Pretty much the same as the "Urban Clearway" signs which are pretty much the same, but may have timed restrictions.