Transitional payment UC

Driftingleaf

I used to be on ESA, but moved and had to go on UC. My transitional element, which was £285, was stopped in April because they say I now get MORE than I did wjth my old benefit. I don't have any savings either affecting my monthly payment. How long did transitional protection last for others who qualified for it? I spoke to an adviser at a jobcentre and he said the transitional element decreases gradually, but looking at my payments it was the same amount until it stopped. I am worse off under UC, this gov are a cruel lot and now I figured out they include HB to say you get more than you did on ESA. Ha, ESA was 339 fortnightly and I got over £400 HB where I used to live, so definitely fared better there than here. It is a joke this UC system and if you are long term sick it isn't helping them and with prices increases really kicking people. I do get PIP and have done for awhile. Currently I'm in the don't have to look for work, but do activities to help you find work group and have mental health problems. I think looking for p/t work would be better and get a top up from UC, but my cv reads as hardly anything because I used to be a carer for a relative.

peteuk

Transitional protection does not apply to those who naturally or voluntarily migrate.

I would suggest that the move and UC claim would fall under the "Natural" migration so in theory there is no transitional protection. 

So you got £339 a fortnight and £400 HB (is that per fortnight) if so £749 a fortnight so what's your UC?  Does that include a Housing element?. 

Did you get the COL and extra PIP COL payments on your ESA?  IF not you will with UC.  It was obvious the drive for everyone to be on UC was a money saving exercise.

poppy12345

peteuk said:

Transitional protection does not apply to those who naturally or voluntarily migrate.

It will apply if the OP was claiming SDP in their ESA, which I’m assuming this was what it’s for as the TP was £285/month. 

OP has there been any other elements included since you claimed UC? If so then this may have eroded the TP quicker. 

calcotti

poppy12345 said:

peteuk said:

Transitional protection does not apply to those who naturally or voluntarily migrate.

It will apply if the OP was claiming SDP in their ESA, which I’m assuming this was what it’s for as the TP was £285/month. 

OP has there been any other elements included since you claimed UC? If so then this may have eroded the TP quicker. 

Although the 10% increase to the standard and disability elements this year will been have deducted from the SDPTE. 

poppy12345

calcotti said:

poppy12345 said:

peteuk said:

Transitional protection does not apply to those who naturally or voluntarily migrate.

It will apply if the OP was claiming SDP in their ESA, which I’m assuming this was what it’s for as the TP was £285/month. 

OP has there been any other elements included since you claimed UC? If so then this may have eroded the TP quicker. 

Although the 10% increase to the standard and disability elements this year will been have deducted from the SDPTE. 

Indeed they would have been but that's not likely enough to erode the TP completely.

Driftingleaf

poppy12345 said:

peteuk said:

Transitional protection does not apply to those who naturally or voluntarily migrate.

It will apply if the OP was claiming SDP in their ESA, which I’m assuming this was what it’s for as the TP was £285/month. 

OP has there been any other elements included since you claimed UC? If so then this may have eroded the TP quicker. 

I did have the SDP element in my ESA which is why I had the transitional element of £285. I had the COL payments last year on ESA and the PIP COL one off. I had some savings, but they have gone now due to having to pay for some storage, I had to move again because the landlord put her house on the market, the cost of everything going up too ate into, so I did have money deducted whilst I had some money. Perhaps this factored into the TL going, but it certainly didn't naturally come down each month, because mynpayment breakdown showed it was £285pm until March.

poppy12345

It will help if you can give a breakdown of what your statement said in March and what it says for your latest statement. The TP doesn't have to naturally reduce each month, it could be reduced to zero in 1 month but it will depend on each individual circumstances.

calcotti

Driftingleaf said:

poppy12345 said:

peteuk said:

Transitional protection does not apply to those who naturally or voluntarily migrate.

It will apply if the OP was claiming SDP in their ESA, which I’m assuming this was what it’s for as the TP was £285/month. 

OP has there been any other elements included since you claimed UC? If so then this may have eroded the TP quicker. 

I did have the SDP element in my ESA which is why I had the transitional element of £285. I had the COL payments last year on ESA and the PIP COL one off. I had some savings, but they have gone now due to having to pay for some storage, I had to move again because the landlord put her house on the market, the cost of everything going up too ate into, so I did have money deducted whilst I had some money. Perhaps this factored into the TL going, but it certainly didn't naturally come down each month, because mynpayment breakdown showed it was £285pm until March.

If your housing element increased the increase will have been deducted from the SDPTE.

poppy12345 said:

calcotti said:

poppy12345 said:

peteuk said:

Transitional protection does not apply to those who naturally or voluntarily migrate.

It will apply if the OP was claiming SDP in their ESA, which I’m assuming this was what it’s for as the TP was £285/month. 

OP has there been any other elements included since you claimed UC? If so then this may have eroded the TP quicker. 

Although the 10% increase to the standard and disability elements this year will been have deducted from the SDPTE. 

Indeed they would have been but that's not likely enough to erode the TP completely.

I didn’t mean to suggest that that would enough alone. It is however unfortunate that claimants will have a significant SDPTE reduction this year due to the annual increase (particularly for those with numerous elements included in their award). 

Driftingleaf

Thanks for all your answers. My HB is actually less now, because I am renting a room rather than my own place to live. Finding somewhere else was not so easy in these current times. It is what it is, but the fact they now use HB to say a person recieves more than they did on their previous benefit is a sly move on the UC system. Peope really have had it cut and honestly, I want to find p/t work, I couldn't do full time right now, but the system is stressful and this gov seem to want to penalise long-term sick. I appreciate all the answers though.

poppy12345

The TP should not have decreased with less housing element entitlement. It's difficult to advise without knowing the information we asked for.

calcotti

poppy12345 said:

The TP should not have decreased with less housing element entitlement. It's difficult to advise without knowing the information we asked for.

Agreed, if the housing element went down that should reduce the SDPTE.
As you say, it it’s possible to comment further with compare have a breakdown of the award before and after to see was has changed.