School Street zone consultation

4justice2

At the last minute the open meeting to discuss the plans with the council due for 18.5.23 has been cancelled due to "unforseen circumstances" and rescheduled for 8.6.23. 
The two hour proposed access ban is 8.15 to 9.15 and 2.45 to 3.45.
In a morning we get a tiny bit of school traffic 8.50 to 9.00. Yesterday afternoon between 3.20 and 3.35 we had two parents cars parked at our end of the street for 15 minutes. That was my afternoon school "rush". One partially blocked my drive, one partially blocked my neighbour. Annoying yes, but livable. 
Still feel the council is using a very big sledgehammer to crack a tiny nut.

The_Unready

"Still feel the council is using a very big sledgehammer to crack a tiny nut."

Don't forget that as well as trying to lessen the impact of ' school ' parking on residents, the council may also be attempting to promote active travel, which will benefit many more people in one way or another.

darrensurrey

Example of it with cameras.

https://goo.gl/maps/8nyU4SaS3NoqZkeZA

Zoom in to see the camera. Rotate to see the restrictions. No stunt motorcyclists Mon-Fri 8.15-9am, 2.45-3.30pm!

You can guarantee the roads just outside the school zone will be rammed.

4justice2

The_Unready said:

"Still feel the council is using a very big sledgehammer to crack a tiny nut."

Don't forget that as well as trying to lessen the impact of ' school ' parking on residents, the council may also be attempting to promote active travel, which will benefit many more people in one way or another.

Thanks for your comments. If we had a big problem with the school run I would welcome this scheme. But as I live only three houses from the school entrance, I'm well aware that school traffic and parking issues are minimal! They're creating a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.😡😡😡.

4justice2

darrensurrey said:

Example of it with cameras.

https://goo.gl/maps/8nyU4SaS3NoqZkeZA

Zoom in to see the camera. Rotate to see the restrictions. No stunt motorcyclists Mon-Fri 8.15-9am, 2.45-3.30pm!

You can guarantee the roads just outside the school zone will be rammed.

Exactly, we don't get much school run traffic. (most of the parents prefer to park on an adjacent street where access is easier). We actually get more disruption from teachers cars and school service vehicles!
But it's certainly going to just shift more congestion onto other streets🤔🙄.

silvercar

IME it varies depending on the catchment of the pupils. If pupils start travelling to school from further away they are more likely to be brought by car, so more traffic. If they are local children they are more likely to walk.

A friend lived near a popular school that was plagued with inconsiderate parkers. A couple of bad ofsted reports and the school became less popular. After a few years it was local children only and the traffic problems disappeared.

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4justice2 said:

darrensurrey said:

Example of it with cameras.

https://goo.gl/maps/8nyU4SaS3NoqZkeZA

Zoom in to see the camera. Rotate to see the restrictions. No stunt motorcyclists Mon-Fri 8.15-9am, 2.45-3.30pm!

You can guarantee the roads just outside the school zone will be rammed.

Exactly, we don't get much school run traffic. (most of the parents prefer to park on an adjacent street where access is easier). We actually get more disruption from teachers cars and school service vehicles!
But it's certainly going to just shift more congestion onto other streets🤔🙄.

You will if they ban it in neighbouring roads, but not yours.

4justice2

We had the the public meeting last night almost unanimous support for some type of restrictions. 
Angry residents just outside the proposed school street zone already have problems with parents and point out this will just shift more cars into the their roads. So they'll only support it if the zone is made bigger. 
Biggest complaint was when we were told enforcement would be up to the police. (Cameras won't be used during one year trial period). Opinion was after the first couple of weeks unless there was regular police visits the problems would come back. Resident of next street pointed out they already have double yellow lines but parents ignore as very rarely enforced. 
Have to wait to see what happens next!

The_Unready

What discussion was there, if any, about trying to move parents away from using their cars and considering active travel options?

4justice2

The_Unready said:

What discussion was there, if any, about trying to move parents away from using their cars and considering active travel options?

People did point out School Street Zones just move the problem to the next street. Council did say they run other schemes to try and persuade people to not use their cars, but this funding is specific for this scheme. Ideas like asking local pub if parents could park there and walk the rest of the way.
Someone suggested a "walking bus".
Ultimately all these schemes don't deal with the core problem of people using their cars when they don't need to. Headteacher admitted she has had abuse when talking to problem parent parkers.