What gearbox does a Renault Clio have ?

MouldyOldDough

photome said:

OP have you tried any of the Toyotas that were discussed a few weeks ago?

If you havent you may be surprised and how good they are to drive

i vaguely recall you asking if a wheelchair/ mobility scooter would fit in the back of a Corolla if that is the case I doubt it would fit in a clio 

No not yet - I am just looking at options at the moment

Toyota now only offer the CHR and Aygo on Motability !

The CHR is considerably more downpayment to obtain (£3,500) than the Clio (£0)

photome

MouldyOldDough said:

photome said:

OP have you tried any of the Toyotas that were discussed a few weeks ago?

If you havent you may be surprised and how good they are to drive

i vaguely recall you asking if a wheelchair/ mobility scooter would fit in the back of a Corolla if that is the case I doubt it would fit in a clio 

No not yet - I am just looking at options at the moment

Toyota now only offer the CHR and Aygo on Motability !

The CHR is considerably more downpayment to obtain (£3,500) than the Clio (£0)

Why not just go and test drive?  , most/all dealers will let you do that.

I do remember now it was the CHR you asked about boot size….it is tiny but prob bigger than the Clio, prob with hybrids is many of them have the battery under the boot floor so making the boot smaller

SpudGunPaul

MouldyOldDough said:

Bigwheels1111 said:

If it’s a MOTABILITY car, why are you worrying.
I’ve driven manual, auto, semi auto, cvt etc and every Hgv with an auto of some kind.
Not mine so not bothered how they are reliability wise.
I have an EAT6 and mate has an EAT8 auto. Both smooth and reliable.
He has 160,000 on his.

Because I will.be driving it!!
I am used to TCs

You put it in drive a press the right pedal. Not much to get used to. 

facade

SpudGunPaul said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Bigwheels1111 said:

If it’s a MOTABILITY car, why are you worrying.
I’ve driven manual, auto, semi auto, cvt etc and every Hgv with an auto of some kind.
Not mine so not bothered how they are reliability wise.
I have an EAT6 and mate has an EAT8 auto. Both smooth and reliable.
He has 160,000 on his.

Because I will.be driving it!!
I am used to TCs

You put it in drive a press the right pedal. Not much to get used to. 

I know what he means. A torque converter just feels "right". The way the engine comes up to stall as you start off, the feel as it changes gear, the engine note as you accelerate gently uphill and it goes up the gears get ingrained into you.

Bigwheels1111

I hope the availability of car makes and models improves on Motability over the next few years.
I was looking at the Corolla estate, wanted it for September 2026.
EV not a viable option, charging restraints.
I’ve driven a Prius and the new Corolla, the new ecvt is much nicer.
I wanted it in 2026 and to try to buy it at the end of the term.
If not available I will just but one new and repay my savings each month form motability payments.
My car is 7 years old, with servicing, insurance, fuel, tyres, extended warranty etc I’m ahead of the game as such.
It’s cost less the motability payments so far, car is still worth 8k-10k. So I’m winning.
I was lucky as the deal on my car was great 47% discount, old model and pre reg with 8 miles on the clock.

MouldyOldDough

Test Drive in Clio Etech hybrid automatic booked for Tuesday morning !

Goudy

facade said:

I know what he means. A torque converter just feels "right". The way the engine comes up to stall as you start off, the feel as it changes gear, the engine note as you accelerate gently uphill and it goes up the gears get ingrained into you.

A modern hybrid that will run purely on electric up to certain speeds just isn't going to feel anything like "right" (a Torque Convertor)
In fact I would say, in regard to feel it's going feel a bit alien to start with.

It's going to pretty much start and set off without the ICE and at city speeds the engine in only likely to kick in and out to charge the battery, so it might not even use the ICE to power the wheels until it's up to speed. The main tell tale sign it's actually changing gear (revs rising and dropping) probably won't be as noticeable.

When it is on the ICE and changing gears, these modern gearboxes do it so fast, smoothly and (usually) at the perfect moment, that you would hardly notice it doing it.
I have the non hybrid Clio with just the ICE and a twin clutch gearbox with 7 speeds, I notice the first change in the morning as it tends to hang onto that one for a fraction of a second longer (it's a wet clutch and I presume the oil is cold) and after that I can't really feel when it's changing, it just flicks the tacho a little when it does. No slip, no lurch, nothing really to tell you it's changed either way.
Even kicking down one or two gears, it's instant so there's no fuss, it just changes without the fuss of changing.

Ok the E-Tech uses a different type of gearbox, but the mechanism to change the gears is going to be very similar.
A short and hardly noticeable cut in power while an actuator shifts forks to engage the next gear.

As the E-Tech takes off in electric and doesn't actually have a clutch, they'll be no slip and add that to the instant and smooth flicks up and down the gearbox, it's going to feel fairly well connected to the road speed just with the oddity the engine isn't always hooked up to the wheels.

I quite like the way it feels, but I'm a lazy manual driver and not overly keen on torque convertors.
I've driven the E-Tech Clio a few times and had one on a weekend loan, it's impressive for this class of car.
I think it's a cut above the latest Yaris hybrid, even though that now has that low gear direct drive, at speed they still have that CVT/engine speed fluster.

MouldyOldDough

Goudy said:

facade said:

I know what he means. A torque converter just feels "right". The way the engine comes up to stall as you start off, the feel as it changes gear, the engine note as you accelerate gently uphill and it goes up the gears get ingrained into you.

A modern hybrid that will run purely on electric up to certain speeds just isn't going to feel anything like "right" (a Torque Convertor)
In fact I would say, in regard to feel it's going feel a bit alien to start with.

It's going to pretty much start and set off without the ICE and at city speeds the engine in only likely to kick in and out to charge the battery, so it might not even use the ICE to power the wheels until it's up to speed. The main tell tale sign it's actually changing gear (revs rising and dropping) probably won't be as noticeable.

When it is on the ICE and changing gears, these modern gearboxes do it so fast, smoothly and (usually) at the perfect moment, that you would hardly notice it doing it.
I have the non hybrid Clio with just the ICE and a twin clutch gearbox with 7 speeds, I notice the first change in the morning as it tends to hang onto that one for a fraction of a second longer (it's a wet clutch and I presume the oil is cold) and after that I can't really feel when it's changing, it just flicks the tacho a little when it does. No slip, no lurch, nothing really to tell you it's changed either way.
Even kicking down one or two gears, it's instant so there's no fuss, it just changes without the fuss of changing.

Ok the E-Tech uses a different type of gearbox, but the mechanism to change the gears is going to be very similar.
A short and hardly noticeable cut in power while an actuator shifts forks to engage the next gear.

As the E-Tech takes off in electric and doesn't actually have a clutch, they'll be no slip and add that to the instant and smooth flicks up and down the gearbox, it's going to feel fairly well connected to the road speed just with the oddity the engine isn't always hooked up to the wheels.

I quite like the way it feels, but I'm a lazy manual driver and not overly keen on torque convertors.
I've driven the E-Tech Clio a few times and had one on a weekend loan, it's impressive for this class of car.
I think it's a cut above the latest Yaris hybrid, even though that now has that low gear direct drive, at speed they still have that CVT/engine speed fluster.

I’ll let you know what I think later today 

MouldyOldDough

OK Test drive, yesterday was interesting - the car was extremely well put together - nothing like Renaults of old (I remember a Renault 5 from the mid 70's) - nothing rattled and the dashboard, seats and trim were high quality materials!

Driving it was an extremely weird experience - starting up was simply putting my foot on the accelarator (they start in electric mode) and after roughly 1/2 a mile, the engine seamlessly cut in - the gearbox was almost as good as my TC box.

Putting my foot down pulled like a train - pretty fast !

Suspension was soft (not anything like as soft as the 5 but softer than my present Suzuki) - I reckon that, yes I could drive one for a long distance without any problems.....

Just one thing - the new hybrid Mitsubishi Colt is due out in a few months - it is a rebadged Clio - so I will wait to see what thats like before deciding !

Zinger549

MouldyOldDough said:

OK Test drive, yesterday was interesting - the car was extremely well put together - nothing like Renaults of old (I remember a Renault 5 from the mid 70's) - nothing rattled and the dashboard, seats and trim were high quality materials!

Driving it was an extremely weird experience - starting up was simply putting my foot on the accelarator (they start in electric mode) and after roughly 1/2 a mile, the engine seamlessly cut in - the gearbox was almost as good as my TC box.

Putting my foot down pulled like a train - pretty fast !

Suspension was soft (not anything like as soft as the 5 but softer than my present Suzuki) - I reckon that, yes I could drive one for a long distance without any problems.....

Just one thing - the new hybrid Mitsubishi Colt is due out in a few months - it is a rebadged Clio - so I will wait to see what thats like before deciding !

Mistubishi left the UK market so the Colt won't be on sale here.