ULEZ Compliant Cars

zagfles

user1977 said:

webjaved said:

Some people are telling me that I can have a Euro 5 car in diesel and not pay a charge because it's a private family car. 

These people sound like idiots. Who are they?

The Greater Manchester CAZ that is "under review" exempts private cars. So not sure it's them that are idiots...

https://www.bury.gov.uk/pests-pollution-and-food-hygiene/pollution/air-quality/greater-manchester-clean-air-zone-next-steps

Herzlos

baser999 said:

@ Herzlos, we’re all up for cleaner air and the obvious benefits but why is it the motorist that’s always hammered? The problems created by those non-compliant vehicles is minuscule compared to that generated by industry. Check out Brown Car Guy on YouTube 
Motorists have always been an easy target, a cash cow, and have generated absolutely millions for Khan in London and no one can tell you where it’s gone, apart from the obvious spend on expansion and all the additional cameras, road signs and such. Not seen any spend on filling potholes. 

The thing with any policy change is that someone end up losing out.

Cars in the greater London area seem to be getting picked on but the reality is that they are responsible for most of the emissions in the city area (most factories are outside of it), the cars facing the charges are now on the older end of the scale @ 9 years old for diesel and 18 years old for petrol, and for many people living in London cars aren't as essential as for someone living rurally with no public transport.

Can you think of a better alternative? It's not even just about global emissions or pollution, as private cars only have so much impact, but about local air quality and the only way to address that is to try and reduce the emissions coming out of the vehicles in the local area.

Yeah, it sucks that you had to sell your Freelander, but you'll have had so many alternatives now that are much nicer and cheaper to run, without having to go to great expense to do so. You could have pretty much swapped it for a petrol Quashqai of a similar age.

I'm assuming you'd only pay the ULEZ fee any time you drive the car into view of a camera? It's not a daily charge for being in the ULEZ if it's just on your driveway.

Car_54

baser999 said:

Petriix said:

baser999 said:

mgfvvc said:

I've not heard of any exemption for private family cars. I have heard of people saying they are being forced to sell their pruvate family cars because of ULEZ expansion.

That is indeed so. We live about a mile outside the existing London ULEZ which Khan is extending in August. Our beloved Land Rover was non-compliant so we’d have been looking at a daily charge of £12.50 every time it moved. At great expense, we’ve been forced to p/ex a well loved, regularly serviced and much cared for vehicle just to keep him happy. A big thank you to the Mayor

Good. There's no reason to have a vehicle like that in the city (and many reasons not to). 

There is if you have mobility issues and have trouble getting into and out of a saloon type vehicle. Think before you make any other assertions 

"Mobility issues" may indeed dictate the use of an SUV or similar. However, it doesn't have to be a polluting one.

baser999

But if the car moves on a daily basis, I’d be liable to the charge. 

And I’m not sure how you arrive at your statement that there’s much ‘nicer and cheaper’. The Freelander suited my needs and accessibility issues, few vehicles did that

Herzlos

baser999 said:

But if the car moves on a daily basis, I’d be liable to the charge. 

And I’m not sure how you arrive at your statement that there’s much ‘nicer and cheaper’. The Freelander suited my needs and accessibility issues, few vehicles did that

The Freelander was a mid/large sized SUV that stopped production in 2014, literally every car manufacturer provides a mid sized SUV, and car tech has come along a long way since then. You could argue the Freelander wasn't even the best of it's class at the time.

Without knowing your usage and accessibility needs I can't really comment on specific alternatives but I can't think what'd be unique about a Freelander. I'd be surprised if you couldn't get away with a Qashqui, or Kia Sportage, both of which have plenty of petrol models available which means you can get one pre-2014, and both seem pretty popular with people with mobility issues.

Whatcar has a pile of 'premium' alternatives, which may not be cheaper but are almost certainly nicer:
https://www.whatcar.com/land-rover/freelander/4x4/used-review/n747/alternatives

What did you end up getting?