Please help - Parking charge notice not received, only debt collectors letter.

KeithP

AntDodd said:

B789 said:

AntDodd said:

Since receiving the debt letter yesterday i have trawled through our receipts and have come across the parking window sticker from the day. Unfortunately the driver input the incorrect information by way of the wrong VRN. The VRN entered is another car within the household that they normally drive on a daily basis, but on this day they used an alternative car for their journey. it was a genuine mistake and the parking was paid for, just for a car that never entered the carpark.

So, apart from the NtD that was stuck on your windscreen, have you ever received anything else from the parking company or anyone else about this, except for the recent debt collector letter? How long ago did this parking event take place?

Does the debt collector letter mention on behalf of which parking company they are chasing you?

There have been various post about not posting names for some reason.

Have there?

I think that if your were to read any thread here you will almost certainly see the parking company's name featured.

AntDodd

Boat_to_Bolivia said:

Boat_to_Bolivia said:

There is absolutely no problem with telling us which PPC it is. 

Advice can differ dependant on this knowledge. And I can assure you that it is highly unlikely they own the car park.

As above. It is important we know.

NTD is Notice To Driver as in the PCN you were very kindly given.

OK, So the company is Initial Parking Ltd and the car park was just an open car park in Bradford, not relating to any shops.. As above i have received nothing except the demand letter from Debt Recovery Plus yesterday stating that i either decide to by the 02/05/2023 :

1) Pay in full
2) Set up a payment plan 
3) Do nothing leading to them 
    a) Informing there legal team
    b) Share contact evidence
    c) Advise legal action starts.

I have not received a PCN, just the letter from DRP.

KeithP

AntDodd said:

The newbie section is fantastic, but i just can't seem to pinpoint the advised process given the circumstances i find myself in. 

Let me just repeat what I wrote earlier on your thread...

The fourth post of the NEWBIES thread explains exactly how to deal with debt collector's letters, but to summarise that post - ignore them.

Boat_to_Bolivia

As above, ignore the debt collector's letters. They may come in handy if there is another loo roll shortage though!

Come back here if you get a LOC/LBC. 

Coupon-mad

Since receiving the debt letter yesterday i have trawled through our receipts and have come across the parking window sticker from the day. Unfortunately the driver input the incorrect information by way of the wrong VRN. The VRN entered is another car within the household that they normally drive on a daily basis, but on this day they used an alternative car for their journey. it was a genuine mistake and the parking was paid for, just for a car that never entered the carpark.

I would supply a photo of that to the debt firm and tell them that Initial Parking must offer a £20 settlement for a major keying error, or shut up.

The ignore them if they don't.

COMPLETELY IGNORE £170 debt demands.

And check your logbook.  Is the right address on it, given you say you never got the PCN in the post?

Shellbobs

Question if original parking company &/or debt company didn’t not send their letter by either registered post or recorded delivery then what legal ground do they have to enforce a court order because they cannot legally prove that you received any of their correspondence irrespective of where they sourced your details from &/or if your v5c address was up to date or not 🤷🏼‍♀️

KeithP

Shellbobs said:

Question if original parking company &/or debt company didn’t not send their letter by either registered post or recorded delivery then what legal ground do they have to enforce a court order because they cannot legally prove that you received any of their correspondence irrespective of where they sourced your details from &/or if your v5c address was up to date or not 🤷🏼‍♀️

@Shellbobs, I am curious as why you have chosen this thread, which was last updated in early 2023, to ask that question?

Your best course of action is to start a new thread if you want that answered.

Fruitcake

Shellbobs said:

Question if original parking company &/or debt company didn’t not send their letter by either registered post or recorded delivery then what legal ground do they have to enforce a court order because they cannot legally prove that you received any of their correspondence irrespective of where they sourced your details from &/or if your v5c address was up to date or not 🤷🏼‍♀️

Your post on a seventeen month old thread does not make much sense. Double negatives don't help. As far as I know, registered post no longer exists. Recorded delivery does, as does signed for, but no parking company, nor motorist would ever use it because if the recipient refused to accept/sign, then there would be a record that it was not delivered, which is not what either party would want.
What is relevant is the Interpretation Act 1978, and Practice Direction [1985] 1 All ER 889, both of which assume that if someone can prove something was posted ( a free proof of postage certificate/receipt from a Post Office counter), then it is presumed to have been delivered by a certain date.