Suspended with Pay for gross misconduct.

GingerTim

The bigger issue, of course, is understanding why they've withdrawn it.

Mr.Generous

keep digging. Good luck.

Undervalued

kingofspades26 said:

Update: This is getting more bizarre as it goes on.  So through "Without Prejudice" emails my employer and myself came up with a settlement agreement as long as I resigned on the 5th May 2023.  This was just Friday gone.  I had found a new job starting Monday 15th May 2023. I made A comment on my Arts & Crafts page which is linked to the place where I worked, but not run by them and its a closed group. The comment I made was "Been busy now I’m unemployed till Monday lol, big cheese platter, a whiskey cigar tray and we all love crumpets, please don’t listen to what your hear I resigned loved the job but the people are shocking don’t be lulled into thinking anything else" (I make wooden things in my spare time).  Rumours of my absence were starting to circulate around the park and now they've emailed me back, stating this:

Thank you for your email, whilst we accept that we have been in conversations with you regarding a COT3 settlement offer, we are now in position whereby we no longer wish to proceed.

It has been brought to our attention that you have been publishing negative comments about the company and it’s employees on website forums. Any offer made was in good faith, however given that you have chosen to now bring the company into disrepute, our offer is now withdrawn.

We wish to recommence the disciplinary investigation and grievance hearing, and will write to you with further details in due course.

Can they do this? I'm totally confused.  I have now started a claim with ACAS. I have no idea what's going on I was under no clause stating I can not speak to people.

Many thanks.

I explained back on 4th May that settlement agreements (and COT3) agreements normally contained a clause preventing both parties from speaking ill of the other.

Whilst we didn't specifically discuss what happens without such a confidentiality agreement, I would have though it was obvious that you don't make public statements such as "....but the people are shocking don’t be lulled into thinking anything else" particularly when, if I understand you correctly, no formal COT 3 or settlement agreement had been signed!!!

You can investigate with a solicitor whether the "agreement" you (thought) you had agreed is likely to binding and if so what is realistically likely to be involved in pursuing it. If you go down that route listen very carefully to what they tell you, regardless of whether it is what you want to hear or not.

With that, I'm out!

billy2shots

kingofspades26 said:

Huh? I wasn't told not to say anything about my job you've read that wrong, I was under no non disclosure agreement and wasn't told that I couldn't speak to anyone. The settlement was agreed I'd resigned. Thanks though Billy for your comment.

Unfortunately  you were clearly told. @Undervalued appears to be knowledgeable on this subject and they were quite clear on staying shtum. 

You chose to ignore the very advice you asked for. 

I'm not sure anyone can offer any help going forward until you accept responsibility for your actions. 

My comments and I'm sure those of others, is nothing personal but you seem to take them as such. 
People want to help so offer points of view and opinions. It's easy just to read and move on without commenting but with the best intentions,  help has been offered but ignored here. 

Don't make a knee-jerk comment when you read this. Sit back and have a think about  what you regret and how you can do better in a similar situation  in the future. 

Good luck going forward. 

PartyOfFive

I think the main lesson you you take away from this is that you aren’t half as funny as you think you are.

elsien

kingofspades26 said:

But that's the truth! Its not run by my company its a private closed group for residents on the park,  They were hearing all sort's of stuff that wasn't true.  That's it I'm done here, instead of vilifying me try and help answer the question asked and not deviate on to your own agenda. 

People are not vilifying you. And we certainly don't have an agenda. The suggestions that are being made are around self-reflection and not making the same mistakes in the future. Although after your earlier comments about how useless the help on here has been and telling people not to bother with the forum you are lucky that Undervalued still made the effort.You tell us how unhelpful we are, then you then come back for more help. So we can't be that bad. 

Without going into the rights and wrongs of your disciplinary, if you take nothing else from this then please take this.

• Before you speak to someone when you are cross with them, take a few seconds to think about how it could come across. "Banter" is rarely just that, and just because other people talk in a certain way doesn't mean that you should. 

• Do not ever comment on your workplace on any sort of social media, whether it be a closed group or not, work related or not. Ditto be extremely careful what you say online to any groups or chats that have any connection to work, even if it's colleagues you believe to be friends. Things have a way of getting back and it's best just not to go there.

Bear that in mind in your new job. 

goater78

Until you actually get the money you’re always best to keep quiet. 

Good luck with the disciplinary action! 

On the plus side you’re still technically employed with them so they have to pay you. 

Clive_Woody

I can't remember the full quote, but it goes along the lines of don't post anything online that you wouldn't want published on the front page of a newspaper (....or discussed in a disciplinary hearing)

kingofspades26

Who'd of thought I'd be back here, I hope everyone is keeping well. Just a quick question, I've spoken to my employers HR representative and she said she's contacted ACAS on the 10th May 2023 but I've heard nothing is this a usual occurrence? Or do ACAS get in contact with you quite promptly? Thanks again.

kingofspades26

When you want answers... and not a life style choice advise...