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Co-operative bank refusing to pay £125 refer-a-friend offer FOS case

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  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 9,910 Forumite
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    Ed-1 said:
    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:


    Success at last (in this case at least).
    Excellent outcome!

    Did you highlight to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS (e.g. as per my post earlier in the thread) yourself, or did the Ombudsman come up with that on their own?

    I wonder why the investigator didn't apply that test in the first place.
    I didn't mention it. But the Ombudsmen are clued up.
    Thanks.  Some of the Ombudsmen are really good, but some of the others...
  • Bridlington1
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    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:
    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:


    Success at last (in this case at least).
    Excellent outcome!

    Did you highlight to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS (e.g. as per my post earlier in the thread) yourself, or did the Ombudsman come up with that on their own?

    I wonder why the investigator didn't apply that test in the first place.
    I didn't mention it. But the Ombudsmen are clued up.
    Thanks.  Some of the Ombudsmen are really good, but some of the others...
    I did mention to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS so hopefully that will run in my favour. Many thanks for mentioning this earlier in the thread, I suspect this information will be invaluable.
  • ForumUser7
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    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:
    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:


    Success at last (in this case at least).
    Excellent outcome!

    Did you highlight to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS (e.g. as per my post earlier in the thread) yourself, or did the Ombudsman come up with that on their own?

    I wonder why the investigator didn't apply that test in the first place.
    I didn't mention it. But the Ombudsmen are clued up.
    Thanks.  Some of the Ombudsmen are really good, but some of the others...
    I did mention to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS so hopefully that will run in my favour. Many thanks for mentioning this earlier in the thread, I suspect this information will be invaluable.
    Although I don't know if precedent happens in the FOS, it may be worth sending them a link to the post with that case decision - if a colleague upheld it, they may feel more inclined to do the same
    If you want me to definitely see your reply, please tag me @forumuser7 Thank you.

    N.B. (Amended from Forum Rules): You must investigate, and check several times, before you make any decisions or take any action based on any information you glean from any of my content, as nothing I post is advice, rather it is personal opinion and is solely for discussion purposes. I research before my posts, and I never intend to share anything that is misleading, misinforming, or out of date, but don't rely on everything you read. Some of the information changes quickly, is my own opinion or may be incorrect. Verify anything you read before acting on it to protect yourself because you are responsible for any action you consequently make... DYOR, YMMV etc.
  • Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:
    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:


    Success at last (in this case at least).
    Excellent outcome!

    Did you highlight to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS (e.g. as per my post earlier in the thread) yourself, or did the Ombudsman come up with that on their own?

    I wonder why the investigator didn't apply that test in the first place.
    I didn't mention it. But the Ombudsmen are clued up.
    Thanks.  Some of the Ombudsmen are really good, but some of the others...
    I did mention to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS so hopefully that will run in my favour. Many thanks for mentioning this earlier in the thread, I suspect this information will be invaluable.
    Although I don't know if precedent happens in the FOS, it may be worth sending them a link to the post with that case decision - if a colleague upheld it, they may feel more inclined to do the same
    Is there a Case Number or Reference that could be quoted?
  • Bridlington1
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    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:
    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:


    Success at last (in this case at least).
    Excellent outcome!

    Did you highlight to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS (e.g. as per my post earlier in the thread) yourself, or did the Ombudsman come up with that on their own?

    I wonder why the investigator didn't apply that test in the first place.
    I didn't mention it. But the Ombudsmen are clued up.
    Thanks.  Some of the Ombudsmen are really good, but some of the others...
    I did mention to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS so hopefully that will run in my favour. Many thanks for mentioning this earlier in the thread, I suspect this information will be invaluable.
    Although I don't know if precedent happens in the FOS, it may be worth sending them a link to the post with that case decision - if a colleague upheld it, they may feel more inclined to do the same
    I don't think I would be able to submit it as evidence now anyway since the deadline for submitting evidence passed a while ago.  I appreciate the suggestion though.
  • ForumUser7
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    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:
    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:


    Success at last (in this case at least).
    Excellent outcome!

    Did you highlight to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS (e.g. as per my post earlier in the thread) yourself, or did the Ombudsman come up with that on their own?

    I wonder why the investigator didn't apply that test in the first place.
    I didn't mention it. But the Ombudsmen are clued up.
    Thanks.  Some of the Ombudsmen are really good, but some of the others...
    I did mention to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS so hopefully that will run in my favour. Many thanks for mentioning this earlier in the thread, I suspect this information will be invaluable.
    Although I don't know if precedent happens in the FOS, it may be worth sending them a link to the post with that case decision - if a colleague upheld it, they may feel more inclined to do the same
    I don't think I would be able to submit it as evidence now anyway since the deadline for submitting evidence passed a while ago.  I appreciate the suggestion though.
    When I've used the FOS, I've found they do accept further comments generally - it may be worth sending it across anyway, not stating it is evidence, just saying you saw it - and then it's up to them whether or not they'll look at it, I'd be surprised if they didn't but as you've said, the evidence deadline has passed so they would be perfectly allowed not to if they were so inclined.
    If you want me to definitely see your reply, please tag me @forumuser7 Thank you.

    N.B. (Amended from Forum Rules): You must investigate, and check several times, before you make any decisions or take any action based on any information you glean from any of my content, as nothing I post is advice, rather it is personal opinion and is solely for discussion purposes. I research before my posts, and I never intend to share anything that is misleading, misinforming, or out of date, but don't rely on everything you read. Some of the information changes quickly, is my own opinion or may be incorrect. Verify anything you read before acting on it to protect yourself because you are responsible for any action you consequently make... DYOR, YMMV etc.
  • masonic
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    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:
    Section62 said:
    Ed-1 said:


    Success at last (in this case at least).
    Excellent outcome!

    Did you highlight to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS (e.g. as per my post earlier in the thread) yourself, or did the Ombudsman come up with that on their own?

    I wonder why the investigator didn't apply that test in the first place.
    I didn't mention it. But the Ombudsmen are clued up.
    Thanks.  Some of the Ombudsmen are really good, but some of the others...
    I did mention to the Ombudsman the "clear, fair and not misleading" issue based on BCOBS so hopefully that will run in my favour. Many thanks for mentioning this earlier in the thread, I suspect this information will be invaluable.
    Although I don't know if precedent happens in the FOS, it may be worth sending them a link to the post with that case decision - if a colleague upheld it, they may feel more inclined to do the same
    I don't think I would be able to submit it as evidence now anyway since the deadline for submitting evidence passed a while ago.  I appreciate the suggestion though.
    Personally, I wouldn't be able to resist sharing it with the mere observation that it looks remarkably similar to this complaint.
  • dcs34
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    Presumably we should expect Co-op to end their current referral offer pretty quickly, in order to amend their T&Cs properly in light of the ombudsman's decision. 

    Although, given their past performance, maybe we shouldn't expect this much of them!
  • masonic
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    dcs34 said:
    Presumably we should expect Co-op to end their current referral offer pretty quickly, in order to amend their T&Cs properly in light of the ombudsman's decision. 

    Although, given their past performance, maybe we shouldn't expect this much of them!
    Would probably be cheaper for them just to change their stance on refusing to pay the minority who come back for repeats.
  • WillPS
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    dcs34 said:
    Presumably we should expect Co-op to end their current referral offer pretty quickly, in order to amend their T&Cs properly in light of the ombudsman's decision. 

    Although, given their past performance, maybe we shouldn't expect this much of them!
    The most recent offer includes this wording:

    2.1.2 not have held a Co-operative Bank current account or smile current account since 01/11/2022. This includes: Current Account, Current Account Plus, Privilege, Privilege Premier, Everyday Extra, Student Account, Cashminder, smile or smilemore; 

    This makes totally clear that you will not be eligible to be referred if you have had £125 before (since you must have had an account after that date in order to have received that money). It also implies they will accept applications from people who have previously received lower amounts, so long as all their accounts were closed no later than 31/10/2022.
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