Parking ticket received more than 14 days after incident...

livewire82

Fruitcake said:

You seem insistent on admitting liability on a public forum that parking companies are known to read. If they can link a post or a thread to a motorist they can use that to identify the driver at which point the date the NTK arrived becomes irrelevant.

I suggest you go back over your posts to edit them so that you only refer to the driver and the keeper who are two different people as far as the law is concerned.

As for whether the driver saw the signs, I suggest you research Lord Denning's Red Hand Rule. I maintain that if a driver did not see the signs then they were probably inadequate and incapable of forming a contract.

What was the date of the alleged event and the issue date of the NTK please?

It was issues on 03/04 but it wasn't receive until 08/04.

Coupon-mad

What happened when you complained on social media to Starbucks, given that they usually cancel PCNs for customers?

As found on any Starbucks parking thread.

Obviously the DRIVER doesn't appeal!

But the CAB drivel doesn't actually tell consumers that important matter and instead (wrongly) lets readers think 14 days is a magic loophole and that you can use any wording about '14 days' and they make people think that the DRIVER can appeal on that basis.

I mean, that CAB advice is appalling!

livewire82

Coupon-mad said:

What happened when you complained on social media to Starbucks, given that they usually cancel PCNs for customers?

As found on any Starbucks parking thread.

Obviously the DRIVER doesn't appeal!

But the CAB drivel doesn't actually tell consumers that important matter and instead (wrongly) lets readers think 14 days is a magic loophole and that you can use any wording about '14 days' and the DRIVER can appeal.  I mean, that CAB advice is appalling!

FORGET CAB. I'm talking about the Protection of Freedoms Act. Legally binding.

As for complaining on social media, I haven't. Should I?

Fruitcake

livewire82 said:

Fruitcake said:

You seem insistent on admitting liability on a public forum that parking companies are known to read. If they can link a post or a thread to a motorist they can use that to identify the driver at which point the date the NTK arrived becomes irrelevant.

I suggest you go back over your posts to edit them so that you only refer to the driver and the keeper who are two different people as far as the law is concerned.

As for whether the driver saw the signs, I suggest you research Lord Denning's Red Hand Rule. I maintain that if a driver did not see the signs then they were probably inadequate and incapable of forming a contract.

What was the date of the alleged event and the issue date of the NTK please?

It was issues on 03/04 but it wasn't receive until 08/04.

Then it is PoFA compliant because it is deemed to have arrived on 05/04, unless you can prove it did not drop through your letter box until the 8th. You can of course state that it did not arrive until day 16, but don't expect it to be a winning point without proof.

Coupon-mad

livewire82 said:

Coupon-mad said:

What happened when you complained on social media to Starbucks, given that they usually cancel PCNs for customers?

As found on any Starbucks parking thread.

Obviously the DRIVER doesn't appeal!

But the CAB drivel doesn't actually tell consumers that important matter and instead (wrongly) lets readers think 14 days is a magic loophole and that you can use any wording about '14 days' and the DRIVER can appeal.  I mean, that CAB advice is appalling!

FORGET CAB. I'm talking about the Protection of Freedoms Act. Legally binding.

As for complaining on social media, I haven't. Should I?

You don't seem to have read the NEWBIES thread yet and grasped that PLAN A is not 'appeal' (and even if you do have to appeal in the end, if Starbucks are useless, you don't tick 'driver'!).

You know exactly where the NEWBIES thread is and where to click to get there because my signature tells everyone.  In fact there's a trail link.back to page one top and bottom of every page including every time you go to use the reply box...

Fruitcake

livewire82 said:

Coupon-mad said:

What happened when you complained on social media to Starbucks, given that they usually cancel PCNs for customers?

As found on any Starbucks parking thread.

Obviously the DRIVER doesn't appeal!

But the CAB drivel doesn't actually tell consumers that important matter and instead (wrongly) lets readers think 14 days is a magic loophole and that you can use any wording about '14 days' and the DRIVER can appeal.  I mean, that CAB advice is appalling!

FORGET CAB. I'm talking about the Protection of Freedoms Act. Legally binding.

As for complaining on social media, I haven't. Should I?

Of course you should complain. That's why C-m asked what happened when you complained because it is Plan A and it is assumed that is what the average person would do first.

livewire82

Ok, so first point of action is to contact Starbucks then. But I cannot find an email to contact them on anywhere.

Umkomaas

livewire82 said:

Ok, so first point of action is to contact Starbucks then. But I cannot find an email to contact them on anywhere.

Took two secs on Google to find this - any help?
https://www.starbucks.co.uk/contact-us

livewire82

Umkomaas said:

livewire82 said:

Ok, so first point of action is to contact Starbucks then. But I cannot find an email to contact them on anywhere.

Took two secs on Google to find this - any help?
https://www.starbucks.co.uk/contact-us

no because there is no email address for customer care.

Coupon-mad

Complaining to Starbucks on social media isn't sending them an email.  It's a public complaint.  Like you see on all the other Starbucks parking threads you are encouraged to search for and read first.

We hope you aren't only reading this thread?  This parking forum is enormous, with a wealth of 'been there done that snd here's who I contacted to get my PCN cancelled' posts!