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I have missed a Letter Before Claim and should probably reply?

Good morning and I hope I am not being that annoying person that hasn't taken instruction from the sticky threads correctly. 

I have a Gladstones Letter Before Claim (31/1/23) and then a follow up warning Court Proceedings are Imminent (14/3/23) which I have been shoving in with all the other parking letters that and totally my own fault did not realise I should have drafted a response to. The original parking charge is from 11/09/2021 and relates to parking on a piece of land that is between a council car park and a town centre piece of land and back street encompassing a number of business premises with housing above. 

One side of this back street is said to be owned by the council (the side I parked on) and the other side presumably privately owned by the landowner of the buildings. I remember sending CPM who issued the ticket a letter advising them of such in a timely manner, I have their response but have since lost my original copy of the letter. I am not sure if I inadvertently suggested I was the driver at the time. After this I received three Debt Recovery Plus letters (18/01/22, 09/02/22, 24/02/22) and then nothing until now. 

I am beginning to draft a letter based on some responses from threads on this forum which never seem to have a final reply from the OP as to whether the case was dropped or not... Perhaps I should be asking for help at this point before I get myself into trouble. the Gladstone letter does not seem to have all the detail I expected a Letter Before Claim to have based on the sticky threads I am reading. But I am more minded to leave that be and simply respond that their client has erroneously issued the ticket on land they had no right to. 

The area in question has very little CPM signage, nothing at the entrances to the road, and only on the landowner building side of the street. The other side of the street is the backwall of a council-owned multi-storey car park where the council themselves have posted several signs reading "PLEASE BE AWARE that persons parking here will have their vehicles clamped by a private clamping company. Tunbridge Wells Borough Council is at present in dispute as to the rightful ownership of this lay-by" (yes I realise I probably should not have parked there and certainly not four tickets received amount of times)

Is this interesting enough a case of anybody to want to give me a bit of help drafting my response? I have four tickets to deal with....


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  • B789
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    Welcome. Who is the council in dispute with? Is it the same landowner as the piece of land that CPM is operating on?
  • glockyyy
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    B789 said:
    Welcome. Who is the council in dispute with? Is it the same landowner as the piece of land that CPM is operating on?
    This is what I presume as this is where I got the ticket. Directly under one of the signs. The road surface of the layby is of a different material to the road surface of the land adjacent to the landowner buildings. The pavement surface is council installed block paving per that area of the town, where the pavement on the opposing side is black tarmac. It's quite clearly two different halves to the same street
  • Grizebeck
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    To late to reply to an LBC
  • glockyyy
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    Grizebeck said:
    To late to reply to an LBC
    So sit back, relax, wait for a my court date?
  • Grizebeck
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    glockyyy said:
    Grizebeck said:
    To late to reply to an LBC
    So sit back, relax, wait for a my court date?
    no you dont wait for a "court date"
    You just wait for the claim form then read the newbies
  • B789
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    glockyyy said:
    Grizebeck said:
    To late to reply to an LBC
    So sit back, relax, wait for a my court date?
    You have a bit to do before you get a court date. Read the second post of Newbies/FAQ thread to see what you will need to do and by when. 

    If/when you receive a Claim and you've followed the advise in the Newbies?FAQ thread about how to do AoS, you will need to follow the checklist suggested above but which I have taken the liberty of putting into a pdf which you should keep handy throuout this process.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lexezsjdz7rypct/CC Checklist.pdf?dl=0
  • KeithP
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    edited 5 April 2023 at 3:22PM
    B789 said:
    I have taken the liberty of putting into a pdf which you should keep handy throuout this process.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lexezsjdz7rypct/CC Checklist.pdf?dl=0
    As an aside @B789, the first link in that document no longer works as intended. It seems to have been split in half. The first half is 'broken' from the second part of it. The second part of that link works, as does the second link.
  • B789
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    edited 5 April 2023 at 3:39PM
    Hmm.. for some reason when I pasted the link, the %20 bit which is where there is a space in that actual filename, didn't come through. It is just one more reason why the utterly rubbish software MSE use for this extremely busy forum is useless.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lexezsjdz7rypct/CC%20Checklist.pdf?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lexezsjdz7rypct/CC_Checklist.pdf?dl=0

    I will set up a webpage where the links to all the pdf documents will be available as just changing the filename within DropBox will alter the link and any previous links provided will no longer work.
  • B789
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    Oops... misread your reply. I see you mean the link in the actual PDF. I'll change it to the current URL for the N180.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 5 April 2023 at 5:59PM
    Are the letters going to the right address?

    Even though it's late I would do this & send Gs your photo showing it's Council land:
    I am more minded to leave that be and simply respond that their client has erroneously issued the ticket on land they had no right to. 

    Will look better later if you respond robustly today.  Do not use a template.

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