Honest Landlords?

BikingBud

motorman99 said:

Despite artful lodgers opinion, when you watch nightmare tenants nightmare landlords or whatever it’s called on tv, there are always 6 dodgy tenants to one dodgy landlord in the show.
it may not be representative.
but the fact of the matter is that landlords should be responsible and look after their tenants, and also landlords should be able to evict non paying / badly behaved etc tenants out of their house far far quicker than they currently can.IMO if a landlord can prove 2 months rent outstanding then eviction should be immediate. 

But in the same vein a good tenant that pays regularly ought to be looked after to the hilt.

I still reckon that there are far more bad tenants than bad landlords, fortunately in both cases I think they’re a minority f

That highly respected, credible and investigative tv programme delivered by journalists without bias, or an eye for the sensational and with irreproachable integrity?

But yes I fully support your later comment the system must be fair to both sides. Although if we really assess what makes a tenant "bad" then I would offer that there is a skewed perception that comes from the general perspective that if you don't own your own house then you are lower form of life.

Many are just not able to buy, despite mortgages often being below rental rates, are forced to move home regularly, coughing up unnecessary repetitive fees as well as removal expenses and consequently cannot get out of the renting trap. 

All that said bad tenants are not criminals whereas the point I was hoping to discuss was, is there an increasing likelihood of "criminal landlords" stepping into the market? Criminal as suspected by WNC, hence their prosecution and found to be accurate by the comments from the Judge: "the District Judge remarked that this was a deliberate, large-scale operation of falsity and that the defendants broke safety laws with no regard to the safety of the tenants, engineered solely for financial gain and profit." 

Maybe there is a bit of washing going on as well!

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BikingBud said:

eddddy said:

BikingBud said:

Honest Landlords?

DullGreyGuy said:

There are 2.74 million declared unincorporated landlords in the UK, and you are saying 5 of them have been fined? A sense of proportion potentially needed?

Having worked at insurers providing Landlord insurance its a daily occurrence that claims are submitted for tenant damages to the Landlords property.  Majority are moderate damage but even in the short time I was looking at it came across far more than 5 cases of tenants converting the property to grow plants making unsafe electrical connections, making large holes in walls/floors for ventilation ducting etc. And that was just one moderate sized provider and I wasnt out looking for them. 

I'm confused by this thread!

The linked article is about a gang who ran a 'rent-to-rent' scam. 

I'm not sure how the thread title or the above post relate to 'rent-to-rent' scams.

@eddddy Unsure why you are confused!

The press release is quite clear, the Council have decided to use the phrases "Landlords" and being more descriptive "Eight criminal landlords"

I am trying to understand if people think this will become more common or less likely given some of the pressures that are coming to bear on housing, hence use of the term prevalent - "widespread in a particular area or at a particular time"

I think that it will become more prevalent as properties to rent are dwindling in number and the cost to rent is increasing. Renters are more likely to accept single rooms in overcrowded shared houses where every spare space is a bedroom.

Where rent to rent is concerned, the so called landlord is just anyone who rents the property, even an enterprising tenant, who converts it, then lets it by the room with as many bedrooms as possible. The word landlord is a very loose description in this instance, for someone who would have no idea or care for the rules and who has no intention to be a landlord other than to collect rents.

Almost any house that is operating as an HMO without immediately having fire risk assessment will be unsafe, and huge penalties can result from not having license where applicable, such as landlords having to refund all rents paid.

dimbo61

Oh dear
Another reason to be aware of the dangers of " Rent to Rent " schemes.
Lots of " Millionaire Entrepreneurs " who are selling one day courses in how to get rich quick by becoming a Landlord without any need for "Money "
Don't worry about saving for a deposit, who needs to own a property when Landlords are queuing up to give you their properties to run for them.
HMM licence ( not needed) Fire safety costs money forget it, overcrowding not a problem.
Now don't forget ALL Landlords are Bad and all Tenants are good.
Poster on the wall at the Shelter HQ 

motorman99

Re your comment 
That highly respected, credible and investigative tv programme delivered by journalists without bias, or an eye for the sensational and with irreproachable integrity? 

I did say ‘ it may not be representative’

however, I think it might be, when you watch it, the bad landlords bit of it is equally as entertaining as the bad tenants bit. 

You also say ‘bad tenants are not criminals’. Well, if they trash your house and move out owing you a years rent, with no intention of ever paying you, I would beg to differ.

there is no room for bad landlords or bad tenants. Sorry, there IS room for them sadly, but there shouldn’t be: at the end of the day it’s business, as a tenant you pay £x every month and in return the landlord keeps up the redecoration, appliances, flooring, gas, electric, sorts you out when you’ve lost your key and generally does the ‘proper’ thing. That’s how it should work.