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  • Kej
    Kej Posts: 24 Forumite
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    edited 1 April 2023 at 5:27PM
    Isn't the quickest way just to compare the amount of kWh on each bill?  If they're about the same but the cost is up then something's wrong.  If they're significantly different then that would explain it.
    The kWh amount might be the same, but comes to cost more with a higher energy rate, in the OP’s case 63p vs 31p.

    So no, while a good idea, it won’t answer the question.

    However, assuming the Octopus equation is correct, the difference “before” and “after” will give the amount the OP’s rate has increased in that time. A frightening amount. And not adequately explained.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 10,349 Forumite
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    Kej said:
    Isn't the quickest way just to compare the amount of kWh on each bill?  If they're about the same but the cost is up then something's wrong.  If they're significantly different then that would explain it.
    The kWh amount might be the same, but more expensive with a higher energy rate. So no, while a good idea, it won’t answer the question. However, assuming key is the same, the most charged before and after will give the amount the rate has increased in that time. Frightening amount. 
    Changing supplier at a time the EPG rate is the same means the kWh rate charged after the EPG discount is the same.  So the difference in kWh would explain it.
  • Kej
    Kej Posts: 24 Forumite
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    Kej said:
    Isn't the quickest way just to compare the amount of kWh on each bill?  If they're about the same but the cost is up then something's wrong.  If they're significantly different then that would explain it.
    The kWh amount might be the same, but more expensive with a higher energy rate. So no, while a good idea, it won’t answer the question. However, assuming key is the same, the most charged before and after will give the amount the rate has increased in that time. Frightening amount. 
    Changing supplier at a time the EPG rate is the same means the kWh rate charged after the EPG discount is the same.  So the difference in kWh would explain it.
    Sure, I can appreciate where you’re coming from.

    The supplier change was not a choice, and has been “in the pipes” for over a year when Bulb went into administration. 

    If you see my reply to OP you’ll appreciate why we feel the way we do, mainly due to poor “transparency”; it has nothing to do with kWh.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 10,349 Forumite
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    Kej said:
    Kej said:
    Isn't the quickest way just to compare the amount of kWh on each bill?  If they're about the same but the cost is up then something's wrong.  If they're significantly different then that would explain it.
    The kWh amount might be the same, but more expensive with a higher energy rate. So no, while a good idea, it won’t answer the question. However, assuming key is the same, the most charged before and after will give the amount the rate has increased in that time. Frightening amount. 
    Changing supplier at a time the EPG rate is the same means the kWh rate charged after the EPG discount is the same.  So the difference in kWh would explain it.
    Sure, I can appreciate where you’re coming from.

    The supplier change was not a choice, and has been “in the pipes” for over a year when Bulb went into administration. 

    If you see my reply to OP you’ll appreciate why we feel the way we do, mainly due to poor “transparency”; it has nothing to do with kWh.
    You are missing my point.

    The actual cost per kWh was the same during the time period OP is looking at bills, regardless of which supplier it was.

    Therefore a significantly higher cost of energy can only be due to using more energy (more kWh).  Which was acknowledged here … https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79958831/#Comment_79958831

    You have a gripe.  The OP had a question.  Your explanation about higher energy charges (per unit) didn't apply to the OP's situation.
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