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EE throttling connection to force switch to fibre?

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  • Newcad
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    No ADSL is always going to have less capacity. -  I was just saying don't get fooled/misled by the 'speed' advertising (it's not speed, it's capacity) .
    100 Mbps is not inherently 'faster' than 20 Mbps, it just lets 5 devices each use 20 Mbps at the same time.
    If you are only using 1 device it will normally still only use 20 Mbps or less.
    Open Task Manager from the taskbar and watch what you are actually using on your computer, even when streaming Youtube it will rarely go above 4 or 5 Mbps, that's all it needs to buffer the next few minutes.
  • Krakkkers
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    Youtube "stat for nerds" reports 84000 kbps or 84Mbps streaming right now watching the F1 weekend warm up.
  • Newcad
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    Is that at 4K HD?
  • Krakkkers
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    No, 720p is 65 Mbps and 1080p is 84 Mbps, probably high bitrate though. 60 fps
  • Krakkkers
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    The OP wants a product that either doesn't exist or wont exist much longer, they want a landline and are happy with 6 mbps.
    99.99% of people do not want that and will not be offered that.
    Fibre if you can get it is faster/better/cheaper. 
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 30 March 2023 at 10:15PM
    Krakkkers said:
    Youtube "stat for nerds" reports 84000 kbps or 84Mbps streaming right now watching the F1 weekend warm up.
    Those stats are your "connection speed" and need interpretation.

    Connection speed on the YouTube stats for nerds is NOT:
    • The bitrate of the stream
    What it shows is:
    • The peak bitrate during streaming

    When you are streaming say a 5mbps video - typical of a 1080p YouTube, then you will get bursts of data rather than a smooth flow. When you start streaming it will try to fill about 30 seconds of buffer so it will send a lot of data, if you have a slower connection it will be limited by that, if you have a fast connection say 1gig then it will be rate limited by the YouTube servers - but I've seen up to 400-500mbps on my 1 gig line.

    Once the video is fully buffered, it will be sent data in chunks from YouTube, not necessarily at the 5mbps rate of the video, could be bursts of 100mbps every 10 seconds for example, all depends on the CDN / load balancing/network capacity at the time.

    You are definitely not watching an 84mbps video stream!
  • Krakkkers
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    edited 30 March 2023 at 10:18PM
    I know how to read data, i waited until the buffer was steady and the video has been running now for 20 minutes and is fairly steady at 79.5 Mbps with a buffer of 104 seconds.
    Amazon UHD needs about 25 Mbps
  • Newcad
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    I think we may be getting a bit too techie for the OP here, and it's their thread after all.
    Techie discussions are probably better on Bleeping forum or similar, unless of course the thread here starts deep into techie.
  • J_B
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    Krakkkers said:
    Landlines are effectively dead ....................
    So, how do you expect us rural dwellers (with no mobile signal)  communicate then?
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 30 March 2023 at 10:25PM
    Krakkkers said:
    I know how to read data, i waited until the buffer was steady and the video has been running now for 20 minutes and is fairly steady at 79.5 Mbps with a buffer of 104 seconds.
    Sorry, you really don't. I know more about video streaming than you do without a doubt. 

    Look at the row called "network activity" - you can see several short bursts of data transfer with lots of big gaps with no data transfer. These small bursts are occurring at 170mbps in my case, 84mbps in your case with absolutely no data in betweem.

    The average data transfer for a 1080 stream will be around 5mbps - more or less depending on several factors but absolutely never on this earth is YouTube streaming a 1080p video at 84mbps or a 720p as per below at 170mbps.

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