Title deeds & plans question that are online via Land Registry

diystarter7

Hi


About a  BTL of ours the other day I went to LR website and got the online copy of the deeds and plan from that site for a couple of quid regarding next door

The details on those are basic and not as detailed as the original deed/title that we have that belongs to our bTL

How could I find out without asking next door as they could lie/etc, what rights they have to use the rear access for bins/etc I guess that has not been used by anyone as its overgrown etc as I need to be sure what is what before we possibly sell/etc/etc.  I've looked at our title deeds and plans and in red lines, we own the rear bit as well as I guess others do but even that does not mention if next door has rights over it. The property was chain free when we bought it and the owner was not in a position to answer questions due to health reasons and their nephew completed the transactions.

I hope I have not confused you and you are able to help answer the main and only question, IE, how do we ascertain if next door has any rights over our land to the back fenced-off area that was overgrown when we bought it years ago and still is by evergreens etc.

Thnaks

RAS

Have you bought next door's deeds?

diystarter7

Hi

Yess....

housebuyer143

Right of access would be in your deeds and likely there's if it was there. Written somewhere in the section regarding easements etc I would think.

diystarter7

housebuyer143 said:

Right of access would be in your deeds and likely there's if it was there. Written somewhere in the section regarding easements etc I would think.

Hi
Thanks, I have read that careful, and the whole thing several times, not see anything

Thnaks

Land_Registry

diystarter7 said:

housebuyer143 said:

Right of access would be in your deeds and likely there's if it was there. Written somewhere in the section regarding easements etc I would think.

Hi
Thanks, I have read that careful, and the whole thing several times, not see anything

Thnaks

Nothing there then no registered rights (easements) so you have your answer. 

Next step is has anyone been using it as a right of access - overgrown suggests not 
So why do you want to know then decides what you do next - if you are planning to do something that impacts on the neighbours then get legal advice/discuss and/or share with neighbours as appropriate 

doodling

Hi,

Have you checked that neither of the titles refer to additional information on file at the land registry?  If there is such information then I believe that you need to request it via post.  You might also want to extend your search a little wider and look at more titles if the house is very similar to those elsewhere in the neighbourhood.

If we are talking about something like a row of terraced houses with an entrance every four houses or so which was intended to serve the two houses either side then it is highly likely that there will be a right of way, even if documentation cannot be found.

Remember that if a right of way existed in the past then it still exists now - lack of use does not extinguish a RoW. 

lika_86

doodling said:

Hi,

Have you checked that neither of the titles refer to additional information on file at the land registry?  If there is such information then I believe that you need to request it via post.  You might also want to extend your search a little wider and look at more titles if the house is very similar to those elsewhere in the neighbourhood.

If we are talking about something like a row of terraced houses with an entrance every four houses or so which was intended to serve the two houses either side then it is highly likely that there will be a right of way, even if documentation cannot be found.

Remember that if a right of way existed in the past then it still exists now - lack of use does not extinguish a RoW. 

This. Our title deeds refer to a Transfer which then contains certain rights and obligations in respect of storage which is on our neighbour's title.

diystarter7

Hiya

Many thanks to all contributors of help
I will further investigate but do not recall anyhting regarding access/easements etc in the orginal deeds wee have from when the house was built in the mid 60's
Thanks

propertyrental

lika_86 said:

doodling said:

This. Our title deeds refer to a Transfer which then contains certain rights and obligations in respect of storage which is on our neighbour's title.

Then you need to obtain and read the Transfer which will specify the rights and obligations in detail.

Does your Title say something like 'Copy filed' when it mentions the Transfer? If yes, the Land Registry has a copy and will send it to you by post if you request it using form OC2 (£7)::

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-copies-of-documents-registration-oc2

You need toalso check your neighbours LR Title too, and any referenced Transfers or Deeds within it.

diystarter7

Thank you all, noted!