Keeping chickens in gardens - is this unreasonable?

strawb_shortcake

MalMonroe said:

annabanana82 said:

An old neighbour did similar, except they also had a Cockerell too - how we willed a fox to get in their garden. It didn't smell though and being able to nip round the corner for eggs was super handy

Why would you want a fox to get into their garden when their chickens were supplying you with eggs? And why anyway would you want any poor chicken to be killed in such a way? (Hope you had permission to take/paid for the eggs.)

Because being woken up at the crack of dawn day after day by said Cockerel became rather irksome to say the least. Moreso that it was so far away from their house and their master bedroom was on the other side of the house. Continual disturbed sleep does funny things to a person. 

The convenience of the eggs was a little bonus when we'd run out rather than having to get in the car and drive to a shop. Not our one stop shop for eggs.

Yes, we used to steal the eggs for giggles... 🙄 

No, they had a table outside offering the eggs for £1 for 6 to anyone passing - not sure why you'd assume that pinching eggs would be a logical step but perhaps that says more about you than me...

NBLondon

We have a neighbour where the end of his garden backs straight on to the side wall of our house (no fence).  He not only put the henhouse there but decided he could drill into the wall to attach battens to fix it to.  Then acted puzzled when I took him to task over it - if he'd asked, we wouldn't have objected but he just went at it with a hammer drill...

diystarter7

MalMonroe said:

annabanana82 said:

An old neighbour did similar, except they also had a Cockerell too - how we willed a fox to get in their garden. It didn't smell though and being able to nip round the corner for eggs was super handy

Why would you want a fox to get into their garden when their chickens were supplying you with eggs? And why anyway would you want any poor chicken to be killed in such a way? (Hope you had permission to take/paid for the eggs.)

Hi

I would not want chickens next to my place and gave examples of this often happening,
I don't blame the chickens but I blame their owners.

The OP appears to be a very nice, kind person judging by their postings and some good advice has been given here and I wish it is sorted but I sadly doubt the

However, I would never want to see the chickens killed by willing (" wiiled")a fox into the chicken's cage as stated by  @annabanana82as that is a very cruel way of thinking. 

As I type, may make a small different by planting tall everygreen, dense evergreen plants that rise a few feet above the fence possibly may reduce a little bit of the problem. Conifers woul do well but they would be too close to the OP's property so its a no, no.

Either way OP, good luck and if it works out, please share with us if you have time

Thnaks

Gavin83

Regardless of whether this is allowed or not (which is debatable) it's extremely antisocial. After all there's a reason they don't wish to keep the chickens next to their own house but they seem happy to push the problem onto their neighbours instead.

They sound unreasonable and I suspect the likelihood is you'll never get on that well with them. Based on that I'd be speaking to the council and looking into what the options are.

If the council route fails and they don't move the chickens at some point you may need to get poison for the rats. Just consider that rat poison will also easily kill a chicken.

strawb_shortcake

diystarter7 said:

MalMonroe said:

annabanana82 said:

An old neighbour did similar, except they also had a Cockerell too - how we willed a fox to get in their garden. It didn't smell though and being able to nip round the corner for eggs was super handy

Why would you want a fox to get into their garden when their chickens were supplying you with eggs? And why anyway would you want any poor chicken to be killed in such a way? (Hope you had permission to take/paid for the eggs.)

Hi

I would not want chickens next to my place and gave examples of this often happening,
I don't blame the chickens but I blame their owners.

The OP appears to be a very nice, kind person judging by their postings and some good advice has been given here and I wish it is sorted but I sadly doubt the

However, I would never want to see the chickens killed by willing (" wiiled")a fox into the chicken's cage as stated by  @annabanana82as that is a very cruel way of thinking. 

As I type, may make a small different by planting tall everygreen, dense evergreen plants that rise a few feet above the fence possibly may reduce a little bit of the problem. Conifers woul do well but they would be too close to the OP's property so its a no, no.

Either way OP, good luck and if it works out, please share with us if you have time

Thnaks

Fortunately no Foxes picked up any of my sleep deprived telepathic thoughts at dawn, and no chickens or rooster were harmed during their stay. 

The neighbours eventually emigrated to Australia, I assume the birds were rehomed, hopefully to somewhere less residential 

diystarter7

Gavin83 said:

Regardless of whether this is allowed or not (which is debatable) it's extremely antisocial. After all there's a reason they don't wish to keep the chickens next to their own house but they seem happy to push the problem onto their neighbours instead.

They sound unreasonable and I suspect the likelihood is you'll never get on that well with them. Based on that I'd be speaking to the council and looking into what the options are.

If the council route fails and they don't move the chickens at some point you may need to get poison for the rats. Just consider that rat poison will also easily kill a chicken.

Hi
The highlighted bit, the clear consensus is people can keep chickens and quite a few of them I read,
It is allowed, hence the big problem.

It is unreasonable and this is why most of us feel for the OP

Especially in a very large garden, it is "anti-social" and I'm wondering how the owner's people managed with that.

The highlighted bit, sorry but what is being suggested here?

thnaks

Gavin83

diystarter7 said:

Gavin83 said:

Regardless of whether this is allowed or not (which is debatable) it's extremely antisocial. After all there's a reason they don't wish to keep the chickens next to their own house but they seem happy to push the problem onto their neighbours instead.

They sound unreasonable and I suspect the likelihood is you'll never get on that well with them. Based on that I'd be speaking to the council and looking into what the options are.

If the council route fails and they don't move the chickens at some point you may need to get poison for the rats. Just consider that rat poison will also easily kill a chicken.

The highlighted bit, the clear consensus is people can keep chickens and quite a few of them I read,
It is allowed, hence the big problem.

Not necessarily. As pointed out some people will have covenants in their deeds that states you can't keep chickens. Also as others have pointed out even if you do keep them they shouldn't cause a disturbance to neighbours. They may well be allowed to keep them but I don't think it's quite that black and white and is worth an investigation.

OP, you can get a copy of the neighbours deeds easily enough if you want to check. £3 on land registry.

diystarter7 said:

Gavin83 said:

Regardless of whether this is allowed or not (which is debatable) it's extremely antisocial. After all there's a reason they don't wish to keep the chickens next to their own house but they seem happy to push the problem onto their neighbours instead.

They sound unreasonable and I suspect the likelihood is you'll never get on that well with them. Based on that I'd be speaking to the council and looking into what the options are.

If the council route fails and they don't move the chickens at some point you may need to get poison for the rats. Just consider that rat poison will also easily kill a chicken.

The highlighted bit, sorry but what is being suggested here?

That if they put rat poison down they need to be careful of the chickens.

If people wish to interpret that differently that's down to them, I have no control of others thoughts.

diystarter7

Gavin83 said:

diystarter7 said:

Gavin83 said:

Regardless of whether this is allowed or not (which is debatable) it's extremely antisocial. After all there's a reason they don't wish to keep the chickens next to their own house but they seem happy to push the problem onto their neighbours instead.

They sound unreasonable and I suspect the likelihood is you'll never get on that well with them. Based on that I'd be speaking to the council and looking into what the options are.

If the council route fails and they don't move the chickens at some point you may need to get poison for the rats. Just consider that rat poison will also easily kill a chicken.

The highlighted bit, the clear consensus is people can keep chickens and quite a few of them I read,
It is allowed, hence the big problem.

Not necessarily. As pointed out some people will have covenants in their deeds that states you can't keep chickens. Also as others have pointed out even if you do keep them they shouldn't cause a disturbance to neighbours. They may well be allowed to keep them but I don't think it's quite that black and white and is worth an investigation.

OP, you can get a copy of the neighbours deeds easily enough if you want to check. £3 on land registry.

diystarter7 said:

Gavin83 said:

Regardless of whether this is allowed or not (which is debatable) it's extremely antisocial. After all there's a reason they don't wish to keep the chickens next to their own house but they seem happy to push the problem onto their neighbours instead.

They sound unreasonable and I suspect the likelihood is you'll never get on that well with them. Based on that I'd be speaking to the council and looking into what the options are.

If the council route fails and they don't move the chickens at some point you may need to get poison for the rats. Just consider that rat poison will also easily kill a chicken.

The highlighted bit, sorry but what is being suggested here?

That if they put rat poison down they need to be careful of the chickens.

If people wish to interpret that differently that's down to them, I have no control of others thoughts.

Hi

Thanks re covenants I read that yesterday and forgot, so that is great worth looking into and all of us wish OP good luck with that

Re rat position, I understand what you are saying now, its open to interpretation.

Take care

Nelliegrace

@MikeJXE That is pretty sick. 
These are someone’s pets or livestock.

orangeflowers

NBLondon said:

We have a neighbour where the end of his garden backs straight on to the side wall of our house (no fence).  He not only put the henhouse there but decided he could drill into the wall to attach battens to fix it to.  Then acted puzzled when I took him to task over it - if he'd asked, we wouldn't have objected but he just went at it with a hammer drill...

OMG! That's awful! What type of person would think that would be acceptable?