Selling DVD/books etc

PocketWatchMan

droopsnoot said:

There is a lack of demand for physical media now - but I still grab bags of DVDs when they're offered on the local "recycling" groups on Facebook - I've tried streaming stuff on All4 and it's rubbish, and I'm aware that sometimes a long-running series will disappear from a paid streaming platform and pop up on a different one you don't subscribe to, before you've had chance to watch the end. I'd rather have the physical media so I can watch when I want to, but I'm not surprised that people want to get rid, and I must force myself to do the same once I've watched things.

My local Oxfam bookshop will take DVDs, but I'm told that there are boxes of them (and vinyl, and CDs) outside behind their shop because they haven't got room to keep them all. (Yes, it's tempting, no, I haven't been for a look.)

I actually disagree about the lack of demand re.. physical media. Certainly in my circle, and my area as a whole, everyone is moving away from digital and streaming. because they are rapidly realizing that their choices will be limited to what "is acceptable" to the loudest and most vocal minority. Several peeps I know have gone online to watch something only to find it removed, as somebody at some time or another had clearly complained it was not up to their personal diversity standards. so just like that its gone. Same with e-books, people are wondering why these are changing -- and are figuring out that these can be changed literally on the fly, literally history is being rewritten as we speak.
So I think the smart money is holding to physical in any way you can.

Cantisque

I think DVD's particularly are on their way out as opposed to physical media as a whole, as most of the usual ones have been replaced by superior HD or 4K editions. If I happen to see a movie I really really enjoyed, I would typically get myself a Blu-ray copy. It might be worth checking the availability of the media on the DVD as well, as it's likely to be worth far more if it's out of print, has no HD release and no digital option.

For CD's, people don't really own CD players any more. You can't even use the "unique sound" excuse that people use for vinyl and cassettes, because CD's are the same sort of digital audio you'd get from streaming/downloads (except online music can be much higher bitrate).
So you end up carrying something twice as large as your phone, that's prone to skipping tracks if you walk too briskly, has lower bitrate audio, no wireless headphone support and can only hold maybe two dozen songs.
With that in mind, when you can fit thousands of songs on a device the size of your thumb without any of those downsides (or access tens of millions of songs anywhere from a streaming service), it's easy to see why CD's don't sell, outside of collectability. And add to that, they were mass produced to the extreme through the 90's and into the 2000's so there are already so many of them floating around out there.

I think/hope books will always have a place, though. You still see companion books released alongside most major movies and games and there are still dedicated book stores. I think they are more appealing to collectors because of their durability. Unlike CD's/DVD's which will all oxidise after a few decades and become useless, books could theoretically last hundreds of years if properly taken care of.

Coffeekup

Cantisque said:

I think DVD's particularly are on their way out as opposed to physical media as a whole, as most of the usual ones have been replaced by superior HD or 4K editions. 
They do appear to be on the way out, mainly due to whichever streaming services own the rights not releasing the DVD content, and yes the blu ray versions are becoming "the norm".

For CD's, people don't really own CD players any more. You can't even use the "unique sound" excuse that people use for vinyl and cassettes, because CD's are the same sort of digital audio you'd get from streaming/downloads (except online music can be much higher bitrate).
While this maybe true many people don't own cd players anymore, the sound quality is far superior to digital/MP3 as it's compressed in the latter. You'd know this if you heard the same song/s through MP3 then through and amp/CD player and speaker's.

So you end up carrying something twice as large as your phone, that's prone to skipping tracks if you walk too briskly, has lower bitrate audio, no wireless headphone support and can only hold maybe two dozen songs.
With that in mind, when you can fit thousands of songs on a device the size of your thumb without any of those downsides (or access tens of millions of songs anywhere from a streaming service), it's easy to see why CD's don't sell, outside of collectability. And add to that, they were mass produced to the extreme through the 90's and into the 2000's so there are already so many of them floating around out there.
I don't think people have carried around portable cd players for 15 + year's or more because of MP3 is the format for people on the go. Even when portable cd players was a "thing" it was a brief 10 year stint and people didn't carry multiple cd's Around with them 

I think/hope books will always have a place, though. You still see companion books released alongside most major movies and games and there are still dedicated book stores. I think they are more appealing to collectors because of their durability. Unlike CD's/DVD's which will all oxidise and become useless, books could theoretically last hundreds of years if properly taken care of.
Books will always have a place as there is nothing like the feel of the pages and the smell whilst reading a book. As will CD's again as they have a far better sound than digital.
Both CDs and book's if looked after well will bother last hundreds if not  thousands of years.

I for one still buy CD's and DVD/Blu-ray, admittedly there is down sides like it's not there at the touch of a finger and it's easier to search to a part whilst it's being streamed.
On the flip side I have some artwork on the case to look at whilst I'm listening to the music, I also have a product in my hand. I'm not rolled into subscriptions to a number of different companies (who all want my information) because I can't listen to this or watch that on a particular platform. With the product in my hand I've paid for it once and I won't have to continue paying for it.

On a side note I also like to think CD's and DVD's will become like 70's star wars figures in 20-30 years time people paying good money for them because people realize the quality is better and there is always collector's of stuff. You can see this if you look at playstation one games, N64 games, and so many other toys or things that there was an abundance of over the years.
So the more that goes into landfill/recycling the better 😁

soolin

Coffeekup said:

Cantisque said:

I think DVD's particularly are on their way out as opposed to physical media as a whole, as most of the usual ones have been replaced by superior HD or 4K editions. 
They do appear to be on the way out, mainly due to whichever streaming services own the rights not releasing the DVD content, and yes the blu ray versions are becoming "the norm".

For CD's, people don't really own CD players any more. You can't even use the "unique sound" excuse that people use for vinyl and cassettes, because CD's are the same sort of digital audio you'd get from streaming/downloads (except online music can be much higher bitrate).
While this maybe true many people don't own cd players anymore, the sound quality is far superior to digital/MP3 as it's compressed in the latter. You'd know this if you heard the same song/s through MP3 then through and amp/CD player and speaker's.

So you end up carrying something twice as large as your phone, that's prone to skipping tracks if you walk too briskly, has lower bitrate audio, no wireless headphone support and can only hold maybe two dozen songs.
With that in mind, when you can fit thousands of songs on a device the size of your thumb without any of those downsides (or access tens of millions of songs anywhere from a streaming service), it's easy to see why CD's don't sell, outside of collectability. And add to that, they were mass produced to the extreme through the 90's and into the 2000's so there are already so many of them floating around out there.
I don't think people have carried around portable cd players for 15 + year's or more because of MP3 is the format for people on the go. Even when portable cd players was a "thing" it was a brief 10 year stint and people didn't carry multiple cd's Around with them 

I think/hope books will always have a place, though. You still see companion books released alongside most major movies and games and there are still dedicated book stores. I think they are more appealing to collectors because of their durability. Unlike CD's/DVD's which will all oxidise and become useless, books could theoretically last hundreds of years if properly taken care of.
Books will always have a place as there is nothing like the feel of the pages and the smell whilst reading a book. As will CD's again as they have a far better sound than digital.
Both CDs and book's if looked after well will bother last hundreds if not  thousands of years.

I for one still buy CD's and DVD/Blu-ray, admittedly there is down sides like it's not there at the touch of a finger and it's easier to search to a part whilst it's being streamed.
On the flip side I have some artwork on the case to look at whilst I'm listening to the music, I also have a product in my hand. I'm not rolled into subscriptions to a number of different companies (who all want my information) because I can't listen to this or watch that on a particular platform. With the product in my hand I've paid for it once and I won't have to continue paying for it.

On a side note I also like to think CD's and DVD's will become like 70's star wars figures in 20-30 years time people paying good money for them because people realize the quality is better and there is always collector's of stuff. You can see this if you look at playstation one games, N64 games, and so many other toys or things that there was an abundance of over the years.
So the more that goes into landfill/recycling the better 😁

I’m not convinced really. I think people will always collect things, but to hold their value you need to have a larger pool of collectors, not just a handful. Yes early Star Wars toys went through a phase of being mega expensive (although that has now really eased off) but unlike CDs DVDs etc anyone could collect them as individual items, with CDs or DVDs the only people likely to collect in the future are those who still have the equipment to play them. I do still have a DVD recorder and a CD player, but none of my adult children do and most of our friends have just neat wall mounted flat screen TV and a streaming box of some sort  and a google or Amazon voice controlled hub for music.

Going back even further than vinyl LPs, there used to be a small market for 78s now you physically can’t give them away , they are landfill as very few people have equipment to play them on anymore. I have several boxes of 78s purely because I remember my father playing them and I keep them for nostalgia reasons even though I don’t have equipment to play them on, but I can’t send them to landfill. 

Having said that though there was a resurgence in some parts of the US a couple of years ago for video players and for a while old video players were being sought with prices being around the $50 - $80 mark. This was due to there being a huge influx of videos being offered for nothing and people realising for a small outlay on a video player they could get virtually unlimited free videos to watch. T happened a little here in the Uk - I actually have 2 video players in the loft and was tempted to sell them, but it died out quite quickly here when people realised just how much room they needed to store videos. 

MouldyOldDough

soolin said:

Coffeekup said:

Cantisque said:

I think DVD's particularly are on their way out as opposed to physical media as a whole, as most of the usual ones have been replaced by superior HD or 4K editions. 
They do appear to be on the way out, mainly due to whichever streaming services own the rights not releasing the DVD content, and yes the blu ray versions are becoming "the norm".

For CD's, people don't really own CD players any more. You can't even use the "unique sound" excuse that people use for vinyl and cassettes, because CD's are the same sort of digital audio you'd get from streaming/downloads (except online music can be much higher bitrate).
While this maybe true many people don't own cd players anymore, the sound quality is far superior to digital/MP3 as it's compressed in the latter. You'd know this if you heard the same song/s through MP3 then through and amp/CD player and speaker's.

So you end up carrying something twice as large as your phone, that's prone to skipping tracks if you walk too briskly, has lower bitrate audio, no wireless headphone support and can only hold maybe two dozen songs.
With that in mind, when you can fit thousands of songs on a device the size of your thumb without any of those downsides (or access tens of millions of songs anywhere from a streaming service), it's easy to see why CD's don't sell, outside of collectability. And add to that, they were mass produced to the extreme through the 90's and into the 2000's so there are already so many of them floating around out there.
I don't think people have carried around portable cd players for 15 + year's or more because of MP3 is the format for people on the go. Even when portable cd players was a "thing" it was a brief 10 year stint and people didn't carry multiple cd's Around with them 

I think/hope books will always have a place, though. You still see companion books released alongside most major movies and games and there are still dedicated book stores. I think they are more appealing to collectors because of their durability. Unlike CD's/DVD's which will all oxidise and become useless, books could theoretically last hundreds of years if properly taken care of.
Books will always have a place as there is nothing like the feel of the pages and the smell whilst reading a book. As will CD's again as they have a far better sound than digital.
Both CDs and book's if looked after well will bother last hundreds if not  thousands of years.

I for one still buy CD's and DVD/Blu-ray, admittedly there is down sides like it's not there at the touch of a finger and it's easier to search to a part whilst it's being streamed.
On the flip side I have some artwork on the case to look at whilst I'm listening to the music, I also have a product in my hand. I'm not rolled into subscriptions to a number of different companies (who all want my information) because I can't listen to this or watch that on a particular platform. With the product in my hand I've paid for it once and I won't have to continue paying for it.

On a side note I also like to think CD's and DVD's will become like 70's star wars figures in 20-30 years time people paying good money for them because people realize the quality is better and there is always collector's of stuff. You can see this if you look at playstation one games, N64 games, and so many other toys or things that there was an abundance of over the years.
So the more that goes into landfill/recycling the better 😁

I’m not convinced really. I think people will always collect things, but to hold their value you need to have a larger pool of collectors, not just a handful. Yes early Star Wars toys went through a phase of being mega expensive (although that has now really eased off) but unlike CDs DVDs etc anyone could collect them as individual items, with CDs or DVDs the only people likely to collect in the future are those who still have the equipment to play them. I do still have a DVD recorder and a CD player, but none of my adult children do and most of our friends have just neat wall mounted flat screen TV and a streaming box of some sort  and a google or Amazon voice controlled hub for music.

Going back even further than vinyl LPs, there used to be a small market for 78s now you physically can’t give them away , they are landfill as very few people have equipment to play them on anymore. I have several boxes of 78s purely because I remember my father playing them and I keep them for nostalgia reasons even though I don’t have equipment to play them on, but I can’t send them to landfill. 

Having said that though there was a resurgence in some parts of the US a couple of years ago for video players and for a while old video players were being sought with prices being around the $50 - $80 mark. This was due to there being a huge influx of videos being offered for nothing and people realising for a small outlay on a video player they could get virtually unlimited free videos to watch. T happened a little here in the Uk - I actually have 2 video players in the loft and was tempted to sell them, but it died out quite quickly here when people realised just how much room they needed to store videos. 

I have a reel to reel video recorder 
When will that be worth anything? 

soolin

MouldyOldDough said:

soolin said:

Coffeekup said:

Cantisque said:

I think DVD's particularly are on their way out as opposed to physical media as a whole, as most of the usual ones have been replaced by superior HD or 4K editions. 
They do appear to be on the way out, mainly due to whichever streaming services own the rights not releasing the DVD content, and yes the blu ray versions are becoming "the norm".

For CD's, people don't really own CD players any more. You can't even use the "unique sound" excuse that people use for vinyl and cassettes, because CD's are the same sort of digital audio you'd get from streaming/downloads (except online music can be much higher bitrate).
While this maybe true many people don't own cd players anymore, the sound quality is far superior to digital/MP3 as it's compressed in the latter. You'd know this if you heard the same song/s through MP3 then through and amp/CD player and speaker's.

So you end up carrying something twice as large as your phone, that's prone to skipping tracks if you walk too briskly, has lower bitrate audio, no wireless headphone support and can only hold maybe two dozen songs.
With that in mind, when you can fit thousands of songs on a device the size of your thumb without any of those downsides (or access tens of millions of songs anywhere from a streaming service), it's easy to see why CD's don't sell, outside of collectability. And add to that, they were mass produced to the extreme through the 90's and into the 2000's so there are already so many of them floating around out there.
I don't think people have carried around portable cd players for 15 + year's or more because of MP3 is the format for people on the go. Even when portable cd players was a "thing" it was a brief 10 year stint and people didn't carry multiple cd's Around with them 

I think/hope books will always have a place, though. You still see companion books released alongside most major movies and games and there are still dedicated book stores. I think they are more appealing to collectors because of their durability. Unlike CD's/DVD's which will all oxidise and become useless, books could theoretically last hundreds of years if properly taken care of.
Books will always have a place as there is nothing like the feel of the pages and the smell whilst reading a book. As will CD's again as they have a far better sound than digital.
Both CDs and book's if looked after well will bother last hundreds if not  thousands of years.

I for one still buy CD's and DVD/Blu-ray, admittedly there is down sides like it's not there at the touch of a finger and it's easier to search to a part whilst it's being streamed.
On the flip side I have some artwork on the case to look at whilst I'm listening to the music, I also have a product in my hand. I'm not rolled into subscriptions to a number of different companies (who all want my information) because I can't listen to this or watch that on a particular platform. With the product in my hand I've paid for it once and I won't have to continue paying for it.

On a side note I also like to think CD's and DVD's will become like 70's star wars figures in 20-30 years time people paying good money for them because people realize the quality is better and there is always collector's of stuff. You can see this if you look at playstation one games, N64 games, and so many other toys or things that there was an abundance of over the years.
So the more that goes into landfill/recycling the better 😁

I’m not convinced really. I think people will always collect things, but to hold their value you need to have a larger pool of collectors, not just a handful. Yes early Star Wars toys went through a phase of being mega expensive (although that has now really eased off) but unlike CDs DVDs etc anyone could collect them as individual items, with CDs or DVDs the only people likely to collect in the future are those who still have the equipment to play them. I do still have a DVD recorder and a CD player, but none of my adult children do and most of our friends have just neat wall mounted flat screen TV and a streaming box of some sort  and a google or Amazon voice controlled hub for music.

Going back even further than vinyl LPs, there used to be a small market for 78s now you physically can’t give them away , they are landfill as very few people have equipment to play them on anymore. I have several boxes of 78s purely because I remember my father playing them and I keep them for nostalgia reasons even though I don’t have equipment to play them on, but I can’t send them to landfill. 

Having said that though there was a resurgence in some parts of the US a couple of years ago for video players and for a while old video players were being sought with prices being around the $50 - $80 mark. This was due to there being a huge influx of videos being offered for nothing and people realising for a small outlay on a video player they could get virtually unlimited free videos to watch. T happened a little here in the Uk - I actually have 2 video players in the loft and was tempted to sell them, but it died out quite quickly here when people realised just how much room they needed to store videos. 

I have a reel to reel video recorder 
When will that be worth anything? 

I had 2 reel to reel 8mm film projectors , another format film projector and a reel to reel music tape machine until 3 years ago when I finally got rid of them . Again they were my dad’s and I offered them out for free together with darkroom equipment , some of the items went to a museum the rest I suspect to dealers. I still have a slide projector which I kept as it takes up a lot less room than the film projectors did. 

MouldyOldDough

soolin said:

MouldyOldDough said:

soolin said:

Coffeekup said:

Cantisque said:

I think DVD's particularly are on their way out as opposed to physical media as a whole, as most of the usual ones have been replaced by superior HD or 4K editions. 
They do appear to be on the way out, mainly due to whichever streaming services own the rights not releasing the DVD content, and yes the blu ray versions are becoming "the norm".

For CD's, people don't really own CD players any more. You can't even use the "unique sound" excuse that people use for vinyl and cassettes, because CD's are the same sort of digital audio you'd get from streaming/downloads (except online music can be much higher bitrate).
While this maybe true many people don't own cd players anymore, the sound quality is far superior to digital/MP3 as it's compressed in the latter. You'd know this if you heard the same song/s through MP3 then through and amp/CD player and speaker's.

So you end up carrying something twice as large as your phone, that's prone to skipping tracks if you walk too briskly, has lower bitrate audio, no wireless headphone support and can only hold maybe two dozen songs.
With that in mind, when you can fit thousands of songs on a device the size of your thumb without any of those downsides (or access tens of millions of songs anywhere from a streaming service), it's easy to see why CD's don't sell, outside of collectability. And add to that, they were mass produced to the extreme through the 90's and into the 2000's so there are already so many of them floating around out there.
I don't think people have carried around portable cd players for 15 + year's or more because of MP3 is the format for people on the go. Even when portable cd players was a "thing" it was a brief 10 year stint and people didn't carry multiple cd's Around with them 

I think/hope books will always have a place, though. You still see companion books released alongside most major movies and games and there are still dedicated book stores. I think they are more appealing to collectors because of their durability. Unlike CD's/DVD's which will all oxidise and become useless, books could theoretically last hundreds of years if properly taken care of.
Books will always have a place as there is nothing like the feel of the pages and the smell whilst reading a book. As will CD's again as they have a far better sound than digital.
Both CDs and book's if looked after well will bother last hundreds if not  thousands of years.

I for one still buy CD's and DVD/Blu-ray, admittedly there is down sides like it's not there at the touch of a finger and it's easier to search to a part whilst it's being streamed.
On the flip side I have some artwork on the case to look at whilst I'm listening to the music, I also have a product in my hand. I'm not rolled into subscriptions to a number of different companies (who all want my information) because I can't listen to this or watch that on a particular platform. With the product in my hand I've paid for it once and I won't have to continue paying for it.

On a side note I also like to think CD's and DVD's will become like 70's star wars figures in 20-30 years time people paying good money for them because people realize the quality is better and there is always collector's of stuff. You can see this if you look at playstation one games, N64 games, and so many other toys or things that there was an abundance of over the years.
So the more that goes into landfill/recycling the better 😁

I’m not convinced really. I think people will always collect things, but to hold their value you need to have a larger pool of collectors, not just a handful. Yes early Star Wars toys went through a phase of being mega expensive (although that has now really eased off) but unlike CDs DVDs etc anyone could collect them as individual items, with CDs or DVDs the only people likely to collect in the future are those who still have the equipment to play them. I do still have a DVD recorder and a CD player, but none of my adult children do and most of our friends have just neat wall mounted flat screen TV and a streaming box of some sort  and a google or Amazon voice controlled hub for music.

Going back even further than vinyl LPs, there used to be a small market for 78s now you physically can’t give them away , they are landfill as very few people have equipment to play them on anymore. I have several boxes of 78s purely because I remember my father playing them and I keep them for nostalgia reasons even though I don’t have equipment to play them on, but I can’t send them to landfill. 

Having said that though there was a resurgence in some parts of the US a couple of years ago for video players and for a while old video players were being sought with prices being around the $50 - $80 mark. This was due to there being a huge influx of videos being offered for nothing and people realising for a small outlay on a video player they could get virtually unlimited free videos to watch. T happened a little here in the Uk - I actually have 2 video players in the loft and was tempted to sell them, but it died out quite quickly here when people realised just how much room they needed to store videos. 

I have a reel to reel video recorder 
When will that be worth anything? 

I had 2 reel to reel 8mm film projectors , another format film projector and a reel to reel music tape machine until 3 years ago when I finally got rid of them . Again they were my dad’s and I offered them out for free together with darkroom equipment , some of the items went to a museum the rest I suspect to dealers. I still have a slide projector which I kept as it takes up a lot less room than the film projectors did. 

Mine is an ancient magnetic tape video recorder (totally as new condition/never used) from the 70's

Its a Sony and weighs about as much as an elephant

mjm3346

Coffeekup said:

Cantisque said:

I think DVD's particularly are on their way out as opposed to physical media as a whole, as most of the usual ones have been replaced by superior HD or 4K editions. 
They do appear to be on the way out, mainly due to whichever streaming services own the rights not releasing the DVD content, and yes the blu ray versions are becoming "the norm".

For CD's, people don't really own CD players any more. You can't even use the "unique sound" excuse that people use for vinyl and cassettes, because CD's are the same sort of digital audio you'd get from streaming/downloads (except online music can be much higher bitrate).
While this maybe true many people don't own cd players anymore, the sound quality is far superior to digital/MP3 as it's compressed in the latter. You'd know this if you heard the same song/s through MP3 then through and amp/CD player and speaker's.

So you end up carrying something twice as large as your phone, that's prone to skipping tracks if you walk too briskly, has lower bitrate audio, no wireless headphone support and can only hold maybe two dozen songs.
With that in mind, when you can fit thousands of songs on a device the size of your thumb without any of those downsides (or access tens of millions of songs anywhere from a streaming service), it's easy to see why CD's don't sell, outside of collectability. And add to that, they were mass produced to the extreme through the 90's and into the 2000's so there are already so many of them floating around out there.
I don't think people have carried around portable cd players for 15 + year's or more because of MP3 is the format for people on the go. Even when portable cd players was a "thing" it was a brief 10 year stint and people didn't carry multiple cd's Around with them 

I think/hope books will always have a place, though. You still see companion books released alongside most major movies and games and there are still dedicated book stores. I think they are more appealing to collectors because of their durability. Unlike CD's/DVD's which will all oxidise and become useless, books could theoretically last hundreds of years if properly taken care of.
Books will always have a place as there is nothing like the feel of the pages and the smell whilst reading a book. As will CD's again as they have a far better sound than digital.
Both CDs and book's if looked after well will bother last hundreds if not  thousands of years.

I for one still buy CD's and DVD/Blu-ray, admittedly there is down sides like it's not there at the touch of a finger and it's easier to search to a part whilst it's being streamed.
On the flip side I have some artwork on the case to look at whilst I'm listening to the music, I also have a product in my hand. I'm not rolled into subscriptions to a number of different companies (who all want my information) because I can't listen to this or watch that on a particular platform. With the product in my hand I've paid for it once and I won't have to continue paying for it.

On a side note I also like to think CD's and DVD's will become like 70's star wars figures in 20-30 years time people paying good money for them because people realize the quality is better and there is always collector's of stuff. You can see this if you look at playstation one games, N64 games, and so many other toys or things that there was an abundance of over the years.
So the more that goes into landfill/recycling the better 😁

The streaming generation will never hanker after DVDs/CDs and would probably find it hard to believe the someone would limit themselves to as close to 0% as you can get of the available streaming content that is out there - TV was black and white with 2 channels when I was a kid so I am not a child of the streaming generation and have amassed something of a DVD/CD collection - I haven't played a CD for years as many have free digital copies on Amazon and I just stream music - I nearly always stream video even if it's a title I own and have looked at about 1 in 2023.