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YoungBlueEyes

Can I ask - why "veg grown above ground"? What's the matter with the underground ones?

MattMattMattUK

YoungBlueEyes said:

Can I ask - why "veg grown above ground"? What's the matter with the underground ones?

It is somewhat of a generalisation, but generally veg where the edible part grows underground, potatoes in particular are usually carb heavy and does not have that many vitamins and that it does have is concentrated in the skin which is often thrown away, it can also be calorie dense. Where as veg that grows above ground is often nutrient and vitamin dense but with very low carbs and calories. Most veg where we eat the below ground part are tubers, most above ground veg are leaves and stems.

YoungBlueEyes

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Longwalker

MattMattMattUK said:

YoungBlueEyes said:

Can I ask - why "veg grown above ground"? What's the matter with the underground ones?

It is somewhat of a generalisation, but generally veg where the edible part grows underground, potatoes in particular are usually carb heavy and does not have that many vitamins and that it does have is concentrated in the skin which is often thrown away it cal also be calorie dense. Where as veg that grows above ground is often nutrient and vitamin dense but with very low carbs and calories. Most veg where we eat the below ground part ate tubers, most above ground veg are leaves and stems.

And this is where I come unstuck with fruit and veg consumption.

I dont eat fruit - texture issues mostly and very sensitive teeth. Vegetables I don't very much like either and those I do like are the below ground ones - carrots, parsnips, swede, beets, etc. Luckily I don't like potatoes very much either so rarely eat them , I don't mind them as jacket potatoes , and I do eat the skin on those. I also don't mind a roast potato and of course I do love them as chips ( who doesn't? ) but I limit chips to once a week, a medium sized potato per person chipped, not a chippy portion

elsien

YoungBlueEyes said:

Can I ask - why "veg grown above ground"? What's the matter with the underground ones?

My brother was given a low carb/nothing belowground diet by a personal trainer once. He ended up eating quite unhealthily. His portions were too far small, and the range of fruit and veg he would eat was incredibly limited -basically greens. 

I took over the cooking for a couple of days. I introduced pulses, pointed out that he haven’t got a rainbow on his plate. I really don’t think eating the odd carrot does anyone a lot of harm but nope it grows  below ground so couldn’t  be done.
And I ate my usual size portions which which are not huge but were twice the size he was eating.  Given that he’s 8 inches taller than me. He then moderated things slightly and lost weight at a much more sensible rate. 

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

YoungBlueEyes

Wow, sounds like another Thing I'm unaware of (add it to the list eh )  Also sounds like your brother's personal trainer wants pulling up elsien.

I've never considered veg in a 'above v below ground' context tbh, I was raised that veg is good so get it eaten. Different vitamins/seasons etc but it's all good.  Daddy always said "when you sit down to your dinner there should be more than 3 colours on your plate" and I still do that now.

Mind you we were raised with some rather blunt tenets. Anything that was wrong was because you're eating too much junk. Putting too much weight on, too tired, skin dry or sallow, achey joints, bad guts, bad moods - the advice was always the same "look at the state of your x, quit shoveling carp down your neck". 

Sorry, going OT. I'll shurrup now.

Longwalker

YoungBlueEyes said:

Wow, sounds like another Thing I'm unaware of (add it to the list eh )  Also sounds like your brother's personal trainer wants pulling up elsien.

I've never considered veg in a 'above v below ground' context tbh, I was raised that veg is good so get it eaten. Different vitamins/seasons etc but it's all good.  Daddy always said "when you sit down to your dinner there should be more than 3 colours on your plate" and I still do that now.

Mind you we were raised with some rather blunt tenets. Anything that was wrong was because you're eating too much junk. Putting too much weight on, too tired, skin dry or sallow, achey joints, bad guts, bad moods - the advice was always the same "look at the state of your x, quit shoveling carp down your neck". 

Sorry, going OT. I'll shurrup now.

But they weren't wrong were they?

jackieblack

YoungBlueEyes said:

Every day's a school day, it really is

This visual guide shows the varying carbs in different veg, if you’re interested 
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetables

jackieblack

Longwalker said:

MattMattMattUK said:

YoungBlueEyes said:

Can I ask - why "veg grown above ground"? What's the matter with the underground ones?

It is somewhat of a generalisation, but generally veg where the edible part grows underground, potatoes in particular are usually carb heavy and does not have that many vitamins and that it does have is concentrated in the skin which is often thrown away it cal also be calorie dense. Where as veg that grows above ground is often nutrient and vitamin dense but with very low carbs and calories. Most veg where we eat the below ground part ate tubers, most above ground veg are leaves and stems.

And this is where I come unstuck with fruit and veg consumption.

I dont eat fruit - texture issues mostly and very sensitive teeth. Vegetables I don't very much like either and those I do like are the below ground ones - carrots, parsnips, swede, beets, etc. Luckily I don't like potatoes very much either so rarely eat them , I don't mind them as jacket potatoes , and I do eat the skin on those. I also don't mind a roast potato and of course I do love them as chips ( who doesn't? ) but I limit chips to once a week, a medium sized potato per person chipped, not a chippy portion

And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that IMO, if your body can process carbs normally - everything in moderation!

Unfortunately, my blood glucose monitor has shown the evidence that mine can’t, so I avoid. I love potatoes, but I love having eyesight and feet more.

Apologies if my first post took the thread a bit off topic for a bit…

YoungBlueEyes

They weren't wrong Longwalker, but I doubt you'd be allowed to say any of those things to someone now ha haa!

Thanks jackieblack, I am interested