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Funding of adult care plan for an elderly person in receipt of benefits.

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  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 21,461 Forumite
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    Pleas don’t concentrate so much on your mother’s finances that you don’t get your own entitlements in place. Your are entitled to Careers allowance but that can only be backdated for 3 months so you need to sort that without delay, You can fill all your missing NI contributions with Careers credit which can cover the entire period you have been a full time career. 

    You may also be able to claim universal credit and housing benefit.
  • AsifM068
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    elsien said:
    I think you said that you had, but has your mum spoken to the GP  about the changes? Just to rule out any physical health triggers.


    Mum is undergoing blood, urine tests and probable MRI scans for dementia. The district nurse asked me yesterday about mum's diet but nothing food wise has changed and I am limiting anything spicy etc - I think its just old age has lead to mum's poor bowel control but it's all very new to me so I'll just wait for the doc and nurses findings.  
  • diystarter7
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    AsifM068 said:
    elsien said:
    I think you said that you had, but has your mum spoken to the GP  about the changes? Just to rule out any physical health triggers.


    Mum is undergoing blood, urine tests and probable MRI scans for dementia. The district nurse asked me yesterday about mum's diet but nothing food wise has changed and I am limiting anything spicy etc - I think its just old age has lead to mum's poor bowel control but it's all very new to me so I'll just wait for the doc and nurses findings.  
    Hi

    Along with everything else that has been posted here and from you are now saying - has a continence assessment taken place? If not ask gp, her nurse to make one I'm not sure if one can self-refer. They will advise, help, recommend etc, etc.
    I district nurse may have made the referral but ask. CN will develop a care plan to manage best as what they see and know as it stands. Again, its all with mums consent

    Does mum have diabetes?

    Good luck


  • AsifM068
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    One of you good people referred to carer's allowance; It is my understanding that if successful, this payment will be subtracted from mum's weekly pension credit and would lead to a net gain of zero for mum and I.

    Mum's pension credit together with her attendance allowance enables me to stay at home to look after mum on a full time basis as agreed by mum and family and goes towards my rent and both of our bills, food and everything else to enable us to live.

    Items such as shower adaptions, grab bars, plastic flooring, waterproof bedding etc comes out of my personal savings. 

    Mum receives full housing benefit for her home and full council tax reduction.

    How this effects social services' financial assessment for mum's care - heaven knows!
  • AsifM068
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    AsifM068 said:
    elsien said:
    I think you said that you had, but has your mum spoken to the GP  about the changes? Just to rule out any physical health triggers.


    Mum is undergoing blood, urine tests and probable MRI scans for dementia. The district nurse asked me yesterday about mum's diet but nothing food wise has changed and I am limiting anything spicy etc - I think its just old age has lead to mum's poor bowel control but it's all very new to me so I'll just wait for the doc and nurses findings.  
    Hi

    Along with everything else that has been posted here and from you are now saying - has a continence assessment taken place? If not ask gp, her nurse to make one I'm not sure if one can self-refer. They will advise, help, recommend etc, etc.
    I district nurse may have made the referral but ask. CN will develop a care plan to manage best as what they see and know as it stands. Again, its all with mums consent

    Does mum have diabetes?

    Good luck


    Mum is borderline diabetic and her bowel issues have been referred to the incontinence team by our GP. The district nurse did mention yesterday that mum maybe entitled to free pull-ups as part of her prescription as mum and I currently self fund the pull ups and new bedding etc. 
  • diystarter7
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    edited 15 March 2023 at 1:45PM
    AsifM068 said:
    AsifM068 said:
    elsien said:
    I think you said that you had, but has your mum spoken to the GP  about the changes? Just to rule out any physical health triggers.


    Mum is undergoing blood, urine tests and probable MRI scans for dementia. The district nurse asked me yesterday about mum's diet but nothing food wise has changed and I am limiting anything spicy etc - I think its just old age has lead to mum's poor bowel control but it's all very new to me so I'll just wait for the doc and nurses findings.  
    Hi

    Along with everything else that has been posted here and from you are now saying - has a continence assessment taken place? If not ask gp, her nurse to make one I'm not sure if one can self-refer. They will advise, help, recommend etc, etc.
    I district nurse may have made the referral but ask. CN will develop a care plan to manage best as what they see and know as it stands. Again, its all with mums consent

    Does mum have diabetes?

    Good luck


    Mum is borderline diabetic and her bowel issues have been referred to the incontinence team by our GP. The district nurse did mention yesterday that mum maybe entitled to free pull-ups as part of her prescription as mum and I currently self fund the pull ups and new bedding etc. 
    Hi
    Thnak you annd that is good re borderline, Being diabetic long term and diffuclt to mange etc leads to a massive of problems and that was what I was fearing but its not and thats great.

    CN may be able to help with mattress protectors ask.

    Re carers allowance, read up on the min hours you need to dedicate etc and decide what impacts these may have on your financial situation etc

    About completing the carers allowance, if you need help, ask on MSE

    As time goes on you guys may want to consider an alarm system andthese things often provided by the coucil after an assessment cann be a simple alarm pendant connected to the service that alerts who is needed via a pendant or wristwatch pendant to much more complex systems to monitor falls etc and if the customer has left the bed and not back in etc etc - send off for the info so you have it in the back of your mind - may cost or not as in the past there was a financial assessment element for this as well but could be different in different parts of the uk.

    if mum has poor/limited  mobility outside and she does not already have a wheelchair for outside use, you could apply ask your DN about this

    If you drive and take mum to appts, does mum  have a blue badge for mum as she could use that give to people that take her out in the car/etc.

    Good luck


    ps

    https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance



  • AsifM068
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    AsifM068 said:
    AsifM068 said:
    elsien said:
    I think you said that you had, but has your mum spoken to the GP  about the changes? Just to rule out any physical health triggers.


    Mum is undergoing blood, urine tests and probable MRI scans for dementia. The district nurse asked me yesterday about mum's diet but nothing food wise has changed and I am limiting anything spicy etc - I think its just old age has lead to mum's poor bowel control but it's all very new to me so I'll just wait for the doc and nurses findings.  
    Hi

    Along with everything else that has been posted here and from you are now saying - has a continence assessment taken place? If not ask gp, her nurse to make one I'm not sure if one can self-refer. They will advise, help, recommend etc, etc.
    I district nurse may have made the referral but ask. CN will develop a care plan to manage best as what they see and know as it stands. Again, its all with mums consent

    Does mum have diabetes?

    Good luck


    Mum is borderline diabetic and her bowel issues have been referred to the incontinence team by our GP. The district nurse did mention yesterday that mum maybe entitled to free pull-ups as part of her prescription as mum and I currently self fund the pull ups and new bedding etc. 
    Hi
    Thnak you annd that is good re borderline, Being diabetic long term and diffuclt to mange etc leads to a massive of problems and that was what I was fearing but its not and thats great.

    CN may be able to help with mattress protectors ask.

    Re carers allowance, read up on the min hours you need to dedicate etc and decide what impacts these may have on your financial situation etc

    About completing the carers allowance, if you need help, ask on MSE

    As time goes on you guys may want to consider an alarm system andthese things often provided by the coucil after an assessment cann be a simple alarm pendant connected to the service that alerts who is needed via a pendant or wristwatch pendant to much more complex systems to monitor falls etc and if the customer has left the bed and not back in etc etc - send off for the info so you have it in the back of your mind - may cost or not as in the past there was a financial assessment element for this as well but could be different in different parts of the uk.

    if mum has poor/limited  mobility outside and she does not already have a wheelchair for outside use, you could apply ask your DN about this

    If you drive and take mum to appts, does mum  have a blue badge for mum as she could use that give to people that take her out in the car/etc.

    Good luck


    ps

    https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance



    Thank you for this; I don't drive and rely on mum's niece for transport. Alarm / link line being explored whilst I type - thank you  friend.
  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,094 Forumite
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    AsifM068 said:
    AsifM068 said:
    AsifM068 said:
    elsien said:
    I think you said that you had, but has your mum spoken to the GP  about the changes? Just to rule out any physical health triggers.


    Mum is undergoing blood, urine tests and probable MRI scans for dementia. The district nurse asked me yesterday about mum's diet but nothing food wise has changed and I am limiting anything spicy etc - I think its just old age has lead to mum's poor bowel control but it's all very new to me so I'll just wait for the doc and nurses findings.  
    Hi

    Along with everything else that has been posted here and from you are now saying - has a continence assessment taken place? If not ask gp, her nurse to make one I'm not sure if one can self-refer. They will advise, help, recommend etc, etc.
    I district nurse may have made the referral but ask. CN will develop a care plan to manage best as what they see and know as it stands. Again, its all with mums consent

    Does mum have diabetes?

    Good luck


    Mum is borderline diabetic and her bowel issues have been referred to the incontinence team by our GP. The district nurse did mention yesterday that mum maybe entitled to free pull-ups as part of her prescription as mum and I currently self fund the pull ups and new bedding etc. 
    Hi
    Thnak you annd that is good re borderline, Being diabetic long term and diffuclt to mange etc leads to a massive of problems and that was what I was fearing but its not and thats great.

    CN may be able to help with mattress protectors ask.

    Re carers allowance, read up on the min hours you need to dedicate etc and decide what impacts these may have on your financial situation etc

    About completing the carers allowance, if you need help, ask on MSE

    As time goes on you guys may want to consider an alarm system andthese things often provided by the coucil after an assessment cann be a simple alarm pendant connected to the service that alerts who is needed via a pendant or wristwatch pendant to much more complex systems to monitor falls etc and if the customer has left the bed and not back in etc etc - send off for the info so you have it in the back of your mind - may cost or not as in the past there was a financial assessment element for this as well but could be different in different parts of the uk.

    if mum has poor/limited  mobility outside and she does not already have a wheelchair for outside use, you could apply ask your DN about this

    If you drive and take mum to appts, does mum  have a blue badge for mum as she could use that give to people that take her out in the car/etc.

    Good luck


    ps

    https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance



    Thank you for this; I don't drive and rely on mum's niece for transport. Alarm / link line being explored whilst I type - thank you  friend.
    Blue badge can still be used taking mum somewhere.
  • elsien
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    It’s not just carers allowance though. You might qualify for universal credit and money towards your rent as well. I do think it’s worth putting the figures into one of the benefits calculators to check so you can decide on the best way forward.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,739 Forumite
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    The only issue I cannot manage is her double incontinence and the ensuing clean-up. Mum has started to use pull-ups successfully, however when she changes the pull up, the contents goes over her legs and and all over the floor and as she is partially sighted, she is unaware of the mess and so I have to attend to it and find that aspect of her care a little too much as it was making me physically ill and impacting upon my mental health.

    Generally speaking, the carers come at certain times of the day or evening - they are not "on call" as it were?

    This being the case, if mother  does not have a regular "routine", I don't quite follow how the OP can avoid having to deal with accidents at least sometimes?

    If the OP is male, I can quite appreciate how difficult he must find it to deal with this aspect of his mother's care and mother may find it upsetting/embarrassing too.

    While both mother and offspring may not wish to contemplate it, unless a full time live in carer is employed, it may be necessary to go the nursing home route?

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