Leicester Market Place Loading Bay/disabled bay council PCN

Pharmacist23

Hello!
I would really appreciate anyone’s  help on this. Yesterday we had to attend a wedding in the snow 🙈 I took my 89 year old grandma to the wedding who who has a valid disabled badge as she has mobility issues. We got a council PCN because unfortunately I was parked in between the sign which has two arrows, one arrow says loading bay and the other disabled parking. There was no marking on the roads to where the cut off is for the loading and disability parking. There was very limited disability parking near the area, which was all full,  and due to the snow we couldn’t park in a car park and make her walk a lot either. I would like to appeal but any advice would be appreciated please. I have attached some photos below of the evidence on the council PCN site. 

When I was looking on the gov site, loading bays I thought should have markings. I have attached a photo of this too if it’s relevant to my case? 

Umkomaas

As we major on private parking tickets here, PePiPoo will be your best bet for council tickets. Register there but please note that a Hotmail address won't work - try using a throwaway Gmail account instead if you do have trouble registering, and post a new thread; here's your link:

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knightstyle

Opp I have helped with similar situations, fortunately most councils are considerate and not as bad as the private parking sharks normally dealt with on here.
The best thing is to write a polite letter with a copy of the blue badge to the council and ask if the penalty can be cancelled.
If this does not work feel free to PM me and I will try to help but you may just have to pay as the rules are quite clear about where the parking areas start and finish which is where the post is.

B789

knightstyle said:

...but you may just have to pay as the rules are quite clear about where the parking areas start and finish which is where the post is.

I think councils are just as liable for the signage and markings being correct and according to the rules. If one or other sign or marking is not clear, then the OP has a case. In this one, it looks like the markings are worn/unclear.

Pharmacist23

Hello,
thank you all for your advice. 

I did appeal with the reasons of unclear signage and no road marking but the council rejected the appeal 🤦🏻‍♀️
I don’t think there’s anything more I can do right and just pay? 

Umkomaas

I did appeal with the reasons of unclear signage and no road marking but the council rejected the appeal 🤦🏻‍♀️
I don’t think there’s anything more I can do right and just pay? 

They almost always reject initially, hoping the motorist has no (further) clue in how to contest it. 

Have you posted over on PePiPoo yet, they are the council parking ticket experts.

Pharmacist23

I did post on there and someone said this
”That loading bay which is not specifically for goods vehicles has an exemption for BB holders as per:-

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HOrYPHV6si...4TyZE3sMcb/view

I read the letter and included this in the appeal along with the reasons on the day as it was heavily snowing and the signs were covered too. “I would also invite you to also consider the points and exemptions of Regulations 8 Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Exemptions for Disabled Persons) (England) Regulations 2000. It specifies that there is an exemption for disabled badge holders in loading bays, which is the specified reason outlines in the PCN issued.” 

But they’ve rejected this in light of the above as well 😬

Coupon-mad

But that's normal at first appeal stage.

Were you not told to expect that?

No-one on pepipoo pays just because a Council third party (which may well be the company whose employee issued the PCN) inevitably rejects the first representation!