PIP review

Bookowl

Hi there,
Got my pip review form through this morning. On it mentions if there was hospital treatment or admissions. I was in hospital for a week. Would they need to know about this? Or would they know if I didn’t tell them?. I didn’t know I had to tell them.
 I don’t think it bears any new / additional information on my review. 

poppy12345

Realistically you only need to tell PIP if you're in for more than 28 days. If you don't want to tell them you don't have to.

Robbie64

The review form specifically asks for details of any hospital admissions since the PIP claim was last looked at as well as any future hospital stays that are known about. Regardless of length of stay, it should be listed.

Rubyroobs

Yes you would need to put it down. the form asks about this and it shows ongoing difficulties ( if related to the reasons you claim PIP ).

Bookowl

Rubyroobs said:

Yes you would need to put it down. the form asks about this and it shows ongoing difficulties ( if related to the reasons you claim PIP ).

Thanks this is a new condition since I last claimed PIP, but at the time it didn’t meet the condition threshold - have it for 3 months and for it to last 9 months.
Also, I’m on enhanced for both and so wouldn’t have changed the points I scored.
 I’m still awaiting on going treatment but the waiting lists are so long.

HillStreetBlues

Bookowl said:

Rubyroobs said:

Yes you would need to put it down. the form asks about this and it shows ongoing difficulties ( if related to the reasons you claim PIP ).

These are two separate issued

1) Did you have to inform PIP about the hospital stay and a new problem
No,  as stay was under 28 days and new problem wouldn't lead to an increase in award.

2) Do you have to mention hospital stay on filling out new review form.
Yes,  as they have asked for that information as part of the questionnaire.
The questionnaire is about a future award,  not the current one.

poppy12345

Completely forgot that they ask about hospital stays in the form, it's been a while since i filled them in. Apologies for not thinking of that.

Bookowl

HillStreetBlues said:

Bookowl said:

Rubyroobs said:

Yes you would need to put it down. the form asks about this and it shows ongoing difficulties ( if related to the reasons you claim PIP ).

These are two separate issued

1) Did you have to inform PIP about the hospital stay and a new problem
No,  as stay was under 28 days and new problem wouldn't lead to an increase in award.

2) Do you have to mention hospital stay on filling out new review form.
Yes,  as they have asked for that information as part of the questionnaire.
The questionnaire is about a future award,  not the current one.

Thanks for taking the time to explain - makes sense now.

Once a separate note, regarding evidence. I know it says you don’t have to send any previous information, I think medical evidence will perhaps  help a case manager make a decision, rather than just looking at the form in isolation. I am resubmitting my previous evidence as my other condition I have hasn’t changed. I was also going to send a copy of my award letter. My thinking with sending a copy of award letter as case manager at DWP will be able to see previous points scored. 

Also, my current award was for 2 years even though my primary condition (vision issues) was from birth, my other condition that developed in 2019 (cataract) has been stable and is deemed high risk to operate on due to my underlying vision issues by my ophthalmologist - this was included as evidence in my current claim  . Could I address the issue of a longer award on the form? Would it be wise? 

Spoonie_Turtle

You need to give full details on your form and may wish to send any evidence you want them to consider - they won't may or may not have paperwork from a previous claim, they'll only consider what you send them.  If you agree with all the descriptors chosen for your current award then I can't see there being any harm in sending a copy of the award letter (although other more experienced/knowledgeable members may take a different view, I don't know).

You can also stress that difficulties from your primary condition are lifelong and will not get better.  At this stage you don't have to specifically say you should get a long award but if you are not happy with the initial outcome then you can request a Mandatory Reconsideration and argue the case for a longer award.  For lifelong conditions with no significant medical breakthroughs on the horizon you'd think 10 years would be the only sensible option (only because they don't do lifelong awards like with DLA).


Edited in light of subsequent posts, edits struck through and in italics.

calcotti

Spoonie_Turtle said:

.At this stage you don't have to specifically say you should get a long award but if you are not happy with the initial outcome then you can request a Mandatory

But there’s no harm in stating that one thinks a long term award is appropriate.

poppy12345

Spoonie_Turtle said:

they won't have paperwork from a previous claim, they'll only consider what you send them.

That wasn't the case for both my daughters reviews last time and the time before that. She had a paper based decision both times and they did mention the previous award. For the last review she had, i sent the form back with all the information and i received the decision letter about 10 days later so it didn't even get sent the health assessment providers. The decision letter referred to her previous award quite a few times.

For my review last time, also paper based, they also mentioned my previous award quite a few times.

Review forms used to say that they didn't want to see any evidence you'd previously sent, no idea if that's still correct.