Can i fit my own gas cooker or is it illegal?

prowla

Eldi_Dos said:

prowla said:

plumb1_2 said:

Ectophile said:

Not true, if it's your own appliance in your own home.  But you need to be competent to do the work.  Exactly what "competent" is isn't defined in the law.  Any work will have to be compliant with the https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/2451/contents/made  Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 (as amended).

You need to be Gas Safe registered if working on someone else's gas appliances, either as an employee or as a self-employed fitter.

True and proving your Competent  to your insurance company is another matter.
Thats why I won’t encourage people to carry out any form of gas work.

It's "proving you're competetent", BTW.

Nice to see the grammar police are on the ball and making gas safety a priority.

Was just taking a cheap shot at the sentence with competent in it (and misspelling the word too!). :-)

chrisw

I always thought it was legal to connect and disconnect an existing appliance with a bayonet fitting but any new appliance has to be commissioned by a gas safe person?

Frank99

Thanks for all the comments folks, i have decided to just pay the money and be on the safe side with gas cookers apparently being phased out by 2040 it might be the last gas cooker.

daivid

chrisw said:

I always thought it was legal to connect and disconnect an existing appliance with a bayonet fitting but any new appliance has to be commissioned by a gas safe person?

That has reminded me of the gas poker in my Grandpa's house, it would be connected (then disconnected) every time using a bayonet fitting and used to get the coal or wood going in the fireplace. I assume it was original to the house (1930's) and hope not many of them are still in use.

CliveOfIndia

chrisw said:

I always thought it was legal to connect and disconnect an existing appliance with a bayonet fitting but any new appliance has to be commissioned by a gas safe person?

Correct.  It does seem a little contradictory, but them's the rules.  I guess the rational is that for an existing appliance, the joint between the hose and the appliance has already been tested, whereas there's a chance that on a new appliance the hose might not be properly connected?  And connecting the bayonet to the gas outlet is pretty much foolproof?  Dunno for sure, but yes, you're correct in your interpretation of the rules.

ThisIsWeird

daivid said:

chrisw said:

I always thought it was legal to connect and disconnect an existing appliance with a bayonet fitting but any new appliance has to be commissioned by a gas safe person?

That has reminded me of the gas poker in my Grandpa's house, it would be connected (then disconnected) every time using a bayonet fitting and used to get the coal or wood going in the fireplace. I assume it was original to the house (1930's) and hope not many of them are still in use.

A flamethrower?!!!

Ganga

ThisIsWeird said:

daivid said:

chrisw said:

I always thought it was legal to connect and disconnect an existing appliance with a bayonet fitting but any new appliance has to be commissioned by a gas safe person?

That has reminded me of the gas poker in my Grandpa's house, it would be connected (then disconnected) every time using a bayonet fitting and used to get the coal or wood going in the fireplace. I assume it was original to the house (1930's) and hope not many of them are still in use.

A flamethrower?!!!

We used to have one in our house when i was young ,we had a coke parkray fire ( think thats the correct spelling) and the gas poker was used to get it started.

Alanp

When I used to commission and install commercial gas dryers we used quick release fittings, you could disconnect the hose and reconnect without needing to do a gas safety check, ( provided of course you didn’t need to work on any gas part, ) 

rob7475

Alanp said:

When I used to commission and install commercial gas dryers we used quick release fittings, you could disconnect the hose and reconnect without needing to do a gas safety check, ( provided of course you didn’t need to work on any gas part, ) 

It's fine for the householder to remove the hose from the bayonet fitting for cleaning behind the cooker etc. However, a new install requires the screw thread of the hose to be attached to the rear of the cooker - if this isn't checked, there's a risk of a leak.

bris

prowla said:

plumb1_2 said:

Ectophile said:

Not true, if it's your own appliance in your own home.  But you need to be competent to do the work.  Exactly what "competent" is isn't defined in the law.  Any work will have to be compliant with the https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/2451/contents/made  Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 (as amended).

You need to be Gas Safe registered if working on someone else's gas appliances, either as an employee or as a self-employed fitter.

True and proving your Competent  to your insurance company is another matter.
Thats why I won’t encourage people to carry out any form of gas work.

It's "proving you're competetent", BTW.

Rubbish, your not competent unless the gas safe register tell you you are.

There's more to installing a gas cooker than just plugging it in.

You need to commission it to, are you competent enough to commission it? 

Do you have the equipment to commission it, did you even know it needed commissioning?