No RCD = EICR fail ?

dil1976

movilogo said:

There are standalone RCD plugs like this to mitigate this issue.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-13a-fused-plug-through-active-rcd-adaptor/63731

BTW, there is an excellent YouTube video which explains all these in nice animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0_1xRqT8uU

But they don't comply with BS7671 so would still lead to a unsatisfactory EICR 

dil1976

grumbler said:

movilogo said:

There are standalone RCD plugs like this to mitigate this issue.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-13a-fused-plug-through-active-rcd-adaptor/63731

  They do - IF they are used. Our regulators think that everything has to be fool-proof.

grumbler said:

movilogo said:

There are standalone RCD plugs like this to mitigate this issue.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-13a-fused-plug-through-active-rcd-adaptor/63731

  They do - IF they are used. Our regulators think that everything has to be fool-proof.

grumbler said:

movilogo said:

There are standalone RCD plugs like this to mitigate this issue.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-13a-fused-plug-through-active-rcd-adaptor/63731

  They do - IF they are used. Our regulators think that everything has to be fool-proof.

The fact you use highlighted and used the word if shows how little you know. It is a requirement of BS7671 that they are incorporated into a circuit.

Risteard

movilogo said:

There are standalone RCD plugs like this to mitigate this issue.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-13a-fused-plug-through-active-rcd-adaptor/63731

BTW, there is an excellent YouTube video which explains all these in nice animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0_1xRqT8uU

They do not protect the socket-outlets as required, nor do they provide additional protection for cables embedded within walls.

grumbler

dil1976 said:

grumbler said:

movilogo said:

There are standalone RCD plugs like this to mitigate this issue.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-13a-fused-plug-through-active-rcd-adaptor/63731

  They do - IF they are used. Our regulators think that everything has to be fool-proof.

grumbler said:

movilogo said:

There are standalone RCD plugs like this to mitigate this issue.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-13a-fused-plug-through-active-rcd-adaptor/63731

  They do - IF they are used. Our regulators think that everything has to be fool-proof.

grumbler said:

movilogo said:

There are standalone RCD plugs like this to mitigate this issue.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-13a-fused-plug-through-active-rcd-adaptor/63731

  They do - IF they are used. Our regulators think that everything has to be fool-proof.

The fact you use highlighted and used the word if shows how little you know. It is a requirement of BS7671 that they are incorporated into a circuit.

I wonder how you managed to draw this far-fetched conclusion from this tiny 'fact'.

They do 'mitigate the issue' of lack of protection for tools used outdoors , not the issue of compliance with the requirements set by the regulators to make everything fool-proof.

I merely replied to the OP who replied (implicitly) to

Ectophile said:The trouble with EICRs is that they are down to the opinion of the person doing them.Looking at the guidelines from Electrical Safety First, then in a house, having no RCDs at all would probably be a C2.  On the basis that you will plug in portable appliances that are used outside (e.g. lawn mowers, hedge trimmers, Christmas lights...).

Absence of RCD protection for portable or
mobile equipment that may reasonably be
expected to be used outdoors