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New Octopus tariff for solar and battery users - Octopus Flux

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  • mickyduck55
    mickyduck55 Posts: 676 Forumite
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    This tariff is designed to allow us to discharge our batteries at peak times to help the grid.  Do people not worry that forced discharge will increase the number of cycles that you put the battery through in a shorter time frame which will shorten their life?  With replacement costs as high as they are surely we should try to look after them.. or is the potential income worth the extra cycles? 
    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • cm4ever
    cm4ever Posts: 215 Forumite
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    edited 12 March 2023 at 9:48AM
    What you do with your battery storage system is completely up to you....  :)

    Just because the tariff offers an incentive to earn more (a higher export rate) exporting between 4pm-7pm, it doesn't mean you have to force it. In the summer, I'd still potentially be exporting normally at this time anyway, on sunny days.... we were still exporting yesterday after 4pm (since just before noon) and it's only March! (it wasn't at a high level, but the principal is there - total export yesterday was 5.1kWh)

    The ability to charge battery storage (if desired) at a 'cheaper' night rate and predominantly have use of the 'standard' rate for the rest of the time if needed (excluding the 3hr peak window), with generally increased export unit price (compared to Outgoing Octopus 12M Fixed 15p/kWh) is enough benefit for me  ;)


  • Oscarmax
    Oscarmax Posts: 183 Forumite
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    Oscarmax said:
    Oscarmax said:
    Flux is now available - I never got the email they promised when it was first announced, but the switching website's up and running. I've switched ready for the sunsine that must appear sometime...
    I have registered my interest, but can't find a link to switch?

    https://octopus.energy/smart/flux/

    Hi I have already registered my interest using that link, I was looking for officer Dibble link

    That is the link to change tariff.
    I am sorted now thanks for the help
    12 x 370 Watt J A panels Solis 3.6 invertor. Solax AC invertor and 5.8 triple battery
  • Oscarmax
    Oscarmax Posts: 183 Forumite
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    I have conformation I am now on the Flux rate, however my export is still showing as fixed rate 15 pence until 03/03 2024
    12 x 370 Watt J A panels Solis 3.6 invertor. Solax AC invertor and 5.8 triple battery
  • Ron-ski
    Ron-ski Posts: 130 Forumite
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    I've just changed to Flux, had an email to confirm Flux import is live, but how long will it take for Flux export to be live?

    I already have a generation MPAN, so that doesn't need setting up 

    As for cycle life, my battery should have a 3000 to 6000 cycle life, at one cycle a day that's 8 to 16 years, manufacturer states in excess of 6000 cycles.

  • 70sbudgie
    70sbudgie Posts: 842 Forumite
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    JKenH said:
    Flux certainly looks appealing if you have both solar and batteries. If you have solar panels and an EV you are going to have to do a lot of sums. 

    This is me! I have E-W solar and an EV. Late last summer, I enjoyed being able to export during the peak period because my panels were still generating well.

    I'm currently on E7 and Agile outgoing because Go and the lower SEG didn't work for me. So I've already got high SC. 

    I am going to have to do some serious number crunching to work out whether the improved day export makes enough of a difference.
    4.3kW PV, 3.6kW inverter. Octopus Agile import, gas Tracker. Zoe. Ripple x 3. Cheshire
  • Officer_Dibble
    Officer_Dibble Posts: 410 Forumite
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    edited 12 March 2023 at 11:46AM
    I replied to their "is everything OK?" email pointing out that my Export tariff hadn't changed after my Import one did. They didn't reply to the email, but the Export tariff changed a couple of hours later. Whether it was the email or coincidence I don't know.

    As for cycling, the battery's either going to gradually run down towards minimum through use up to 0200 the next morning, or slightly faster by discharging between 1600-1900, I can't imagine it'll make much difference.
    4.7kWp (12 * Hyundai S395VG) facing more or less S + 3.6kW Growatt inverter + 6.5kWh Growatt battery. SE London/Kent. Fitted 03/22 £1,025/kW + battery £2495

  • Oscarmax
    Oscarmax Posts: 183 Forumite
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    I have just emailed Octopus as regard my outgoing export tariff
    12 x 370 Watt J A panels Solis 3.6 invertor. Solax AC invertor and 5.8 triple battery
  • Alnat1
    Alnat1 Posts: 3,872 Forumite
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    I've decide to wait until the clocks change to hop over to Flux, so more of my export will be during the evening peak.

    Hopefully in a couple of weeks the sun will be making a bit more of an effort. It's been a rather dull, grey winter here, near to the Pennines.
    Barnsley, South Yorkshire
    Solar PV 5.25kWp SW facing (14 x 375) Lux 3.6kw hybrid inverter installed Mar 22 and 9.6kw Pylontech battery 
    Daikin 8kW ASHP installed Jan 25
    Octopus Cosy/Fixed Outgoing 
  • Ron-ski
    Ron-ski Posts: 130 Forumite
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    edited 12 March 2023 at 12:48PM
    I've just looked on my account and it shows this:


    So hopefully export will be setup soon, but would be good to know how long it will take.

    I was on the flexible tariff, as have only just had my smart replaced after they stopped working last year, so made sense to switch now.

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