Permitted work on ESA contributions based - occasional income

samk777

Hi. I am in receipt of contributions based ESA / New Style. I am in the support group and my health won't improve so a few hours each week is the maximum I would be able to do. What are the rules for doing permitted work on a self-employed basis? I would be likely to earn up to £3000 but it would all come in a single payment (one piece of commissioned creative work) after doing a few hours each week over a year or so.  Could this fit with the permitted work rules? Obviously I would be registered as self-employed for gross earnings over £1000. I am concerned that this wouldn't fit with the usual cycle of 4 weeks or a month for income that is usually used for benefits.

calcotti

Self employment earnings are generally based on annual earnings.
DWP guidance is here 
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/810648/admv5.pdf

Are you excluded from UC?

samk777

calcotti said:

Self employment earnings are generally based on annual earnings.
DWP guidance is here 
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/810648/admv5.pdf

Are you excluded from UC?

Thanks. I will have a wade through though a quick search shows there is no ref to permitted work. Perhaps the assessment period info might be helpful. Re UC, yes at present but probably won't be by the time I have any earnings as I will also have other income. A good point to bear in mind though if there's a possibility to switch.... though the ability to save without penalties is a negative.

poppy12345

samk777 said:

calcotti said:

Self employment earnings are generally based on annual earnings.
DWP guidance is here 
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/810648/admv5.pdf

Are you excluded from UC?

A good point to bear in mind though if there's a possibility to switch.... though the ability to save without penalties is a negative.

Contributions based ESA/New style ESA will never be part of UC. If you claim UC your ESA will simply continue but be deducted in full from any UC entitlement.

calcotti

samk777 said:

calcotti said:

Self employment earnings are generally based on annual earnings.
DWP guidance is here 
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/810648/admv5.pdf

Are you excluded from UC?

Thanks. I will have a wade through though a quick search shows there is no ref to permitted work. Perhaps the assessment period info might be helpful. 

That guidance I referenced is about how to calculate self employed earnings. The earnings so calculated are then used to assess whether or not the self employed earner is within the PW limit.