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Sellers bidding against each other, room for a better deal?

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  • fackers_2
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    RelievedSheff said:
    fackers_2 said:
    Are the two properties identical then? I mean in terms of finish, any work required etc? Otherwise surely this is comparing apples and oranges?

    It does strike me as a shame that people can’t just be transparent and honest in their dealings though. It’s reached the stage now where agents look at you blankly if you say you want to be ethical and honest about things and not play games - and that applies whether you are selling or buying. We’ve agreed that we are intending to treat other parties as we would want to be treated ourselves - whilst not a huge believer in karma, at least I’ll be able to sit comfortably with my own conscience later. 
    Ohh 100% agree with you on ethical and moral points. I’m a fair person and happy to pay what a property is worth. On the off chance a situation like this happens, one has to ask if a better deal can be made (just like best and final offers for buyers). 

    They’re almost very similar. One has an extension, the other has a bigger garden… both valued the same! 
    What is more important to you?

    Buying a home or playing silly games?

    You are certainly not the sort of buyer we would entertain dealing with.
    Why?! Not silly games, if we like both properties and they NEED/WANT the sale then they can and in their right to drop the asking price to be the house… Only if we like both and are torn. :)

    As i say, it’s good enough for sellers in a sellers market to have bids, so why not buyers in a buyers market. :)
    Always find comparables. You can ask, but you won’t always get what you want. 

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  • silvercar
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    You can guarantee that the sellers will talk to each other and if they are on with different EAs, the EAs will talk to each other. 
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  • RelievedSheff
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    fackers_2 said:
    RelievedSheff said:
    fackers_2 said:
    Are the two properties identical then? I mean in terms of finish, any work required etc? Otherwise surely this is comparing apples and oranges?

    It does strike me as a shame that people can’t just be transparent and honest in their dealings though. It’s reached the stage now where agents look at you blankly if you say you want to be ethical and honest about things and not play games - and that applies whether you are selling or buying. We’ve agreed that we are intending to treat other parties as we would want to be treated ourselves - whilst not a huge believer in karma, at least I’ll be able to sit comfortably with my own conscience later. 
    Ohh 100% agree with you on ethical and moral points. I’m a fair person and happy to pay what a property is worth. On the off chance a situation like this happens, one has to ask if a better deal can be made (just like best and final offers for buyers). 

    They’re almost very similar. One has an extension, the other has a bigger garden… both valued the same! 
    What is more important to you?

    Buying a home or playing silly games?

    You are certainly not the sort of buyer we would entertain dealing with.
    Why?! Not silly games, if we like both properties and they NEED/WANT the sale then they can and in their right to drop the asking price to be the house… Only if we like both and are torn. :)

    As i say, it’s good enough for sellers in a sellers market to have bids, so why not buyers in a buyers market. :)
    And if neither NEED/WANT the sale?

    I think you are making the mistake of assuming that all sellers are desperate to sell.
  • mi-key
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    fackers_2 said:
    RelievedSheff said:
    fackers_2 said:
    Are the two properties identical then? I mean in terms of finish, any work required etc? Otherwise surely this is comparing apples and oranges?

    It does strike me as a shame that people can’t just be transparent and honest in their dealings though. It’s reached the stage now where agents look at you blankly if you say you want to be ethical and honest about things and not play games - and that applies whether you are selling or buying. We’ve agreed that we are intending to treat other parties as we would want to be treated ourselves - whilst not a huge believer in karma, at least I’ll be able to sit comfortably with my own conscience later. 
    Ohh 100% agree with you on ethical and moral points. I’m a fair person and happy to pay what a property is worth. On the off chance a situation like this happens, one has to ask if a better deal can be made (just like best and final offers for buyers). 

    They’re almost very similar. One has an extension, the other has a bigger garden… both valued the same! 
    What is more important to you?

    Buying a home or playing silly games?

    You are certainly not the sort of buyer we would entertain dealing with.
    Why?! Not silly games, if we like both properties and they NEED/WANT the sale then they can and in their right to drop the asking price to be the house… Only if we like both and are torn. :)

    As i say, it’s good enough for sellers in a sellers market to have bids, so why not buyers in a buyers market. :)
    And if neither NEED/WANT the sale?

    I think you are making the mistake of assuming that all sellers are desperate to sell.
    I'm sure if he keeps trying his tacticts then in 3 or 5 years time he may find someone desperate who will drop the price by enough to make him feel it is worth it 
  • MalMonroe
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    Might just be me but if three houses in close-ish proximity went up for sale around the same time, I'd be looking for properties elsewhere. 

    Why are three families wanting to leave the same area? 

    I wouldn't play it at all because I'd be convinced there was a problem somewhere.
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  • fackers_2
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    MalMonroe said:
    Might just be me but if three houses in close-ish proximity went up for sale around the same time, I'd be looking for properties elsewhere. 

    Why are three families wanting to leave the same area? 

    I wouldn't play it at all because I'd be convinced there was a problem somewhere.
    That’s what my pessimistic side is saying. I’ll report back once I’ve spoke with EA this week. 
    Always find comparables. You can ask, but you won’t always get what you want. 

    House prices are now falling as they were in 2008… A correction is happening - Jan 2023
  • TheJP
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    It wouldn't take long for either seller or agent to figure you out and effectively lock you out. By all means use one property against each other in terms of what the lacking has to offer to gain and advantage but it sounds exhausting trying to play seller against seller let alone the morals of it all.

    Be bold in ensuring both sellers know you are viewing each property (like a peacock), let each EA know you are extremely interested in both properties, they will do the legwork for you.
  • theoretica
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    For many people looking to buy a house there will be more than one property they could be interested in - this situation is not really unusual- just the properties are a bit closer together than often.
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  • If they both went on the market at the same time you might want to look into why they are selling. Might be some issue with the area.
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