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  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    Stubod said:
    I find it odd that the OP has a barking dog that wakes up the neigbours, but then post "Neighbours that complain"? I am not sure what they expect, but this seems to be fairly typical of some dog owners who have absolutely no respect for their neigbours and are happy to let their dogs bark as much as they see fit without appreciating the imact it is having on their surroundings. Our neigbours have a dog that we have hardly ever heard, but on a neigbouring estate there is a dog that barks for most of the day and I feel so sorry for their neigbours, if it were mine I would be mortified!
    Hi OP

    Read the post where this poster responded to my comments and got 14 thumbs up. I think that will give you a better idea.

    I'm no dog lover but like you appreciate the problems that owners and neigbours may encounter and the best way is to talk about it to resolve it and if its not perfect, try to adjust as the alternative is much worse

    Thnaks

  • Slinky
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    We have friends with a dog that they got as a puppy during lockdown. They were renting a house that they only managed to secure with a dog, with the condition that they didn't leave the dog in the house on its own.  It became so used to being with them all the time (one works from home) that they now can't leave it on its own without it getting distressed and barking. They've now moved into their own property.  They've tried all sorts of suggested training and nothing has worked. He's terrified when they put him in kennels. Strangely they can leave it for a while in their car (not on a hot day obviously), but that's the only time he will be settled.  They've come to the conclusion that he will be their constant companion until he goes to doggy heaven.

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  • CurlySue2017
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    edited 8 February 2023 at 5:26PM
    SJE89 said:
    One of my biggest fears when buying a house is winding up with neighbours who exist to cause trouble.
    We've recently bought a semi-detached house and the neighbours on our other side have welcomed us, as have the ones at the other side, but not the ones on our party wall.
    This alone indicated to me that these ones were either solitary people or just ignorant.
    We have 2 dogs, one is a 9 month old Italian Greyhound, who has settled in remarkably well, however first thing in a morning around half 6, she will cry to which we immediately get up to see to her and she stops.
    We have cameras in the house and check on her frequently when we are not there and she's good as gold.
    Tonight the neighbour has banged on our door quite aggressively, and when answered her attitude was rather sarcastic, asking how we're settling in and then straight away moving to "just one thing. the dog..."
    So she has complained that she is being woken up early by the dog's crying in a morning. I wouldn't care if it was loud or for a prolonged period of time, but it's quiet, we leave our doors open in the house and can only just hear her, and when we do we attend to her immediately and that is it.
    We can hear our neighbours through the walls and they frequently have the TV on loud, but we take no issue with that.
    Now, I'm horrified to hear we may be causing any kind of disturbance, so I am seeking ways that I can sort this out asap.

    But I get the impression, that these are going to be the kind of neighbours that will complain about anything, and as a first time homeowner, want to know what I can do to put this to bed, because I don't think it will stop with the dog.

    I feel that some of the replies have been quite harsh, obviously not all people are dog lovers and I understand that.
    For me if the dog is a puppy then you have to expect a little noise, they do cry and whine but at the same time, they are easily trainable at that age so whilst it is a pain, it should only be for quite a short amount of time.
    If the dog cries at 6.30 every morning to wake you, could you not get up at say 6 o'clock to prevent that?  Just until the dog is a little older and more settled when the crying will almost certainly stop as they will grow out of it.
    People forget that puppies are like babies - they need constant attention and are noisy!  So I do feel a little understanding on the neighbours part could go a long way in this case, just try talking to them
  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    SJE89 said:
    One of my biggest fears when buying a house is winding up with neighbours who exist to cause trouble.
    We've recently bought a semi-detached house and the neighbours on our other side have welcomed us, as have the ones at the other side, but not the ones on our party wall.
    This alone indicated to me that these ones were either solitary people or just ignorant.
    We have 2 dogs, one is a 9 month old Italian Greyhound, who has settled in remarkably well, however first thing in a morning around half 6, she will cry to which we immediately get up to see to her and she stops.
    We have cameras in the house and check on her frequently when we are not there and she's good as gold.
    Tonight the neighbour has banged on our door quite aggressively, and when answered her attitude was rather sarcastic, asking how we're settling in and then straight away moving to "just one thing. the dog..."
    So she has complained that she is being woken up early by the dog's crying in a morning. I wouldn't care if it was loud or for a prolonged period of time, but it's quiet, we leave our doors open in the house and can only just hear her, and when we do we attend to her immediately and that is it.
    We can hear our neighbours through the walls and they frequently have the TV on loud, but we take no issue with that.
    Now, I'm horrified to hear we may be causing any kind of disturbance, so I am seeking ways that I can sort this out asap.

    But I get the impression, that these are going to be the kind of neighbours that will complain about anything, and as a first time homeowner, want to know what I can do to put this to bed, because I don't think it will stop with the dog.

    I feel that some of the replies have been quite harsh, obviously not all people are dog lovers and I understand that.
    For me if the dog is a puppy then you have to expect a little noise, they do cry and whine but at the same time, they are easily trainable at that age so whilst it is a pain, it should only be for quite a short amount of time.
    If the dog cries at 6.30 every morning to wake you, could you not get up at say 6 o'clock to prevent that?  Just until the dog is a little older and more settled when the crying will almost certainly stop as they will grow out of it.
    People forget that puppies are like babies - they need constant attention and are noisy!  So I do feel a little understanding on the neighbours part could go a long way in this case, just try talking to them
    Hi

    I hope your post does not get the rudeness  I got. 

    Good post

    Thanks
  • SJE89 said:
    One of my biggest fears when buying a house is winding up with neighbours who exist to cause trouble.
    We've recently bought a semi-detached house and the neighbours on our other side have welcomed us, as have the ones at the other side, but not the ones on our party wall.
    This alone indicated to me that these ones were either solitary people or just ignorant.
    We have 2 dogs, one is a 9 month old Italian Greyhound, who has settled in remarkably well, however first thing in a morning around half 6, she will cry to which we immediately get up to see to her and she stops.
    We have cameras in the house and check on her frequently when we are not there and she's good as gold.
    Tonight the neighbour has banged on our door quite aggressively, and when answered her attitude was rather sarcastic, asking how we're settling in and then straight away moving to "just one thing. the dog..."
    So she has complained that she is being woken up early by the dog's crying in a morning. I wouldn't care if it was loud or for a prolonged period of time, but it's quiet, we leave our doors open in the house and can only just hear her, and when we do we attend to her immediately and that is it.
    We can hear our neighbours through the walls and they frequently have the TV on loud, but we take no issue with that.
    Now, I'm horrified to hear we may be causing any kind of disturbance, so I am seeking ways that I can sort this out asap.

    But I get the impression, that these are going to be the kind of neighbours that will complain about anything, and as a first time homeowner, want to know what I can do to put this to bed, because I don't think it will stop with the dog.

    I feel that some of the replies have been quite harsh, obviously not all people are dog lovers and I understand that.
    For me if the dog is a puppy then you have to expect a little noise, they do cry and whine but at the same time, they are easily trainable at that age so whilst it is a pain, it should only be for quite a short amount of time.
    If the dog cries at 6.30 every morning to wake you, could you not get up at say 6 o'clock to prevent that?  Just until the dog is a little older and more settled when the crying will almost certainly stop as they will grow out of it.
    People forget that puppies are like babies - they need constant attention and are noisy!  So I do feel a little understanding on the neighbours part could go a long way in this case, just try talking to them
    Hi

    I hope your post does not get the rudeness  I got. 

    Good post

    Thanks
    Thankyou

    I do wonder when common decency and just having a chat with people all seemed to end?  There is post after post on here from people complaining, posting notes, etc.  why can't people just talk to each other?
    Honestly it drives me round the bend!!  I understand that not everyone is approachable and some would probably just tell you to F off, but I'd like to think that's the few rather than the many.
    IMO the neighbour has a valid point, but may have handled it badly by complaining so soon after the OP moving in. 
    Personally if it were me - I would approach said neighbour and apologise for the noise but explain that you are puppy training which is temporary and you would really appreciate a bit of understanding.  It opens the door for conversation if nothing else.

  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    SJE89 said:
    One of my biggest fears when buying a house is winding up with neighbours who exist to cause trouble.
    We've recently bought a semi-detached house and the neighbours on our other side have welcomed us, as have the ones at the other side, but not the ones on our party wall.
    This alone indicated to me that these ones were either solitary people or just ignorant.
    We have 2 dogs, one is a 9 month old Italian Greyhound, who has settled in remarkably well, however first thing in a morning around half 6, she will cry to which we immediately get up to see to her and she stops.
    We have cameras in the house and check on her frequently when we are not there and she's good as gold.
    Tonight the neighbour has banged on our door quite aggressively, and when answered her attitude was rather sarcastic, asking how we're settling in and then straight away moving to "just one thing. the dog..."
    So she has complained that she is being woken up early by the dog's crying in a morning. I wouldn't care if it was loud or for a prolonged period of time, but it's quiet, we leave our doors open in the house and can only just hear her, and when we do we attend to her immediately and that is it.
    We can hear our neighbours through the walls and they frequently have the TV on loud, but we take no issue with that.
    Now, I'm horrified to hear we may be causing any kind of disturbance, so I am seeking ways that I can sort this out asap.

    But I get the impression, that these are going to be the kind of neighbours that will complain about anything, and as a first time homeowner, want to know what I can do to put this to bed, because I don't think it will stop with the dog.

    I feel that some of the replies have been quite harsh, obviously not all people are dog lovers and I understand that.
    For me if the dog is a puppy then you have to expect a little noise, they do cry and whine but at the same time, they are easily trainable at that age so whilst it is a pain, it should only be for quite a short amount of time.
    If the dog cries at 6.30 every morning to wake you, could you not get up at say 6 o'clock to prevent that?  Just until the dog is a little older and more settled when the crying will almost certainly stop as they will grow out of it.
    People forget that puppies are like babies - they need constant attention and are noisy!  So I do feel a little understanding on the neighbours part could go a long way in this case, just try talking to them
    Hi

    I hope your post does not get the rudeness  I got. 

    Good post

    Thanks
    Thankyou

    I do wonder when common decency and just having a chat with people all seemed to end?  There is post after post on here from people complaining, posting notes, etc.  why can't people just talk to each other?
    Honestly it drives me round the bend!!  I understand that not everyone is approachable and some would probably just tell you to F off, but I'd like to think that's the few rather than the many.
    IMO the neighbour has a valid point, but may have handled it badly by complaining so soon after the OP moving in. 
    Personally if it were me - I would approach said neighbour and apologise for the noise but explain that you are puppy training which is temporary and you would really appreciate a bit of understanding.  It opens the door for conversation if nothing else.

    Thanks.
    I've often said IRL/net etc that notes/emails could give the wrong tone and even on phones.
    As I said I'm honest and not a fan of dogs but its more the owner's fault.

    Talking is better than fighting and at times it does not take a lot for things to turn very nasty indeed.

    Being reasonable is a skill that sadly many do not possess as clearly evident in some of the posts here and TBH, I do
    feel sorry for them

    A person that lived next door to mum and dads first house in London an Eot - the person was seriously hard of hearing and the tv was loud. They had a chat and the next door apoligsed but it went on through no fault of the person as almost deaft and no subtitles etc those days and nor was the person interested in a loop sytem for hard of hearing next door kids told my parents

    We just got used to it and put furnture against the wall and it was a big house we started siting in another room and kept that for when we had guests and we too were I think loud just like most people when ten or more talkig, eat and drinking

    At times both sides have to adjust

    Thanks

  • diystarter7
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    bouicca21 said:
    It’s not that difficult to stop a dog from barking or whining.  Lots of tips all over the net.  

    It’s many years since I taught my dog to bark and stop barking on command but it wasn’t hard and has the added benefit of impressing people when you get get your dog to bark the answer to basic arithmetic questions.  

    Thanks. If we ever get someone living near ur property with a dog that is barking a lot, I'll call you.
    Hopefully we hear the dogs in our house and properties around our are detached but if they are left to roam in the garden, I will be asking you - if you cant do it I'm sure there are many like you around as its so easy judging by what you said
    :)
  • JReacher1
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    Not sure how you can solve this problem. You have a dog that barks at 6am. It annoys your neighbours, from a practical point of view it’s hard to stop. Although anti social the council won’t do anything if you stop the barking within say thirty minutes so this just won’t go anywhere. It’s a sad state of affairs though. 
  • MalMonroe
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    GDB2222 said:
    Stubod said:
    I find it odd that the OP has a barking dog that wakes up the neigbours, but then post "Neighbours that complain"? I am not sure what they expect, but this seems to be fairly typical of some dog owners who have absolutely no respect for their neigbours and are happy to let their dogs bark as much as they see fit without appreciating the imact it is having on their surroundings. Our neigbours have a dog that we have hardly ever heard, but on a neigbouring estate there is a dog that barks for most of the day and I feel so sorry for their neigbours, if it were mine I would be mortified!
    I’m not sure how easy it is to stop a dog barking? Those collars that shock the dog when it barks strike me as cruel, and even if they work that might be at the expense of making the dog a nervous wreck.


    Dogs can be trained without the need to resort to any cruel methods.

    Only have to watch Graeme Hall to know that. (Dogs Behaving Badly). Owners just need to have time and patience. 
    (Episode on TV last night with a yappy dog - problem solved by GH. He never uses 'treats' either.) I don't have a dog now but love them all but if my neighbours had one that woke me at 6.30 am I'd be quite cross. Especially if those neighbours were aware that the dog was about to start whining at that time. That's just a double whammy. If all else failed I'd just have my dog snuggling up on my bed but that's just me, an old softie.  
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